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NOT HERE.

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NOT HERE.

THEY KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ASK FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND THE STAR.

CAN YOU TEXT OMEGA OR HAVE ANNABELLE TEXT OMEGA? I, I THINK THEY'RE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY WERE A SLIGHT INCREASE, I THINK, WASN'T IT SMALL DECREASE.

YEAH.

IT'S FROM WHAT THEY ASKED FOR LAST YEAR, A DECREASE, BUT NOT MUCH.

NOT MUCH.

MAYBE SEVEN, SIX, $700 BETTER GOING UP.

SO YEAH, WE HAD BUDGETED 72 4 49 FOR LAST YEAR.

AND THE BUDGET THEY'RE REQUESTING IS 71 5 16 88.

OKAY.

NOT, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

AND, UH, THEY ARE EACH MONTH OR EVERY, YEAH, EVERY MONTH THEY GIVE US AN UPDATE.

SO WE DO SEE THAT THEY ARE SERVING CITIZENS THAT OTHERWISE NOT, MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO TO GO.

SO, AND THEIR SUBSIDY FROM THE STATE, OF COURSE HAS BEEN CUT BACK.

I THINK.

IS IT MIKE, TIM WORK TAKE OVER? UH, HE'S WORKING I THINK PART-TIME OR SOMETHING FOR, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT MAY BE THE, IT COULD BE THE CASE.

ALRIGHT.

SO EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY.

ROUND THAT UP.

THE 71 AND THE NEXT IS THE SAME THING, GEORGE.

AND HE'S DEALING WITH AN IT.

YEAH.

YOU'LL GET HERE.

IT'S THE SAME.

I BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

REQUEST, RIGHT? I'M GONNA SAY ONE THING ABOUT THAT.

MY WIFE'S ON THAT BOARD.

MM-HMM .

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PARTICIPATION IN IT, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE MEETING.

YEP.

ON THE SENIOR CITIZENS.

YEAH.

SENIOR CITIZENS.

WHAT IS THAT GOLD ON? ALRIGHT.

UH, NEXT.

THAT WAS THE OLD HISTORY BECAUSE WE STILL, WE DIDN'T CUT THAT CONTRACT TILL LAST YEAR.

OKAY.

THAT'S JUST HISTORY IS THE, UH, GOT CHARGE ON FOR 20 STILL.

THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS BUDGETED.

OH.

I DON'T KNOW.

THEY GOT A LINE CUT AND THEY HAD AN ACCIDENT SOMEWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE, DID YOU GUYS DO THAT TOO? THAT 30,000 AN EMAIL WORKING ON IT PERSONALLY OR NOT? OKAY.

SO FAR YOU CAN DO KAREN.

SHE'S RIGHT AFTER WE'LL HAVE, GO AHEAD AND TEXT GEORGE.

SHE'S GONNA BE HERE BY NINE 20 AND IF NOT, WE'LL THAT'S ALL YOU HAD IS AND MOVE HER UP.

WE'LL MOVE OVER TO KAREN, UH, TO THE AUDITORS QUESTION QUICK? YEAH, SURE.

ON THIS, UH, THERE OUR MAINTENANCE FOR RECORDS MEMORIAL PARTNER HERE ON THAT 4 0 9.

YEAH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT.

THAT'S THE ONE I WAS ASKING IF WE COULD MOVE IT TO ROBERT'S BUDGET.

YEAH, THINK IT SHOULD BE OKAY.

YEAH, THAT'S, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, WE'LL THAT'LL BE TAKEN OUTTA THAT, BUT WHICH IT, IT SHOULD BE IN THE HIS BUDGET.

YES.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

KAREN, LET GET OVER WHERE ON WHAT? THE SENIOR CITIZEN? NO, IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT FROM LAST YEAR.

ALL NOW.

CAN WE WHAT? NOTHING.

I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL UNTIL AFTER I MEET WITH THE DISTRICT JUDGES TO SEE IF THEY, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE ANY CHANGES.

I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING.

OKAY.

AS FAR AS PERSONNEL, YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

YOU GOT A GOOD CREW.

I'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD CREW.

UM, NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO WITH ALL THE K WE NEED.

NO, WHEN I CAME HERE, I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAD ACCOUNTING BACKGROUND AND A DEGREE.

UH, SINCE THAT TIME PEOPLE HAVE LEFT BECAUSE OF RETIREMENT AND THINGS.

SO, UM, I'VE GOTTEN FOUR IN MY, OF THE SIX OF US THAT HAVE DEGREES.

SO THE OTHER TWO LADIES, ONE OF 'EM HAS A,

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A TWO YEAR DEGREE.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY TO ENTER BILLS TO PAY BILLS TO HAVE A DEGREE.

UM, WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IF THE COUNTY KEPT EXPANDING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER AUDITOR SIMPLY FOR THE GRANTS BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING GRANTS AND IT TAKES A LOT OF OUR TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THEY WANT RECORDED AND HOW IT'S BEING ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM AND PURCHASED.

SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT I HADN'T ASKED FOR THAT.

YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT, SIR? YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT? OH, NO, WE HAD, DON'T YOU NEED A COMPANY CARD? NO, NO.

AND NOT A CELL PHONE EITHER.

UH, WE HAD TALKED TO BOBBY ABOUT WHERE THE TWO OFFICES HAVE A WALL THAT WE'D LIKE A, A DOOR CUT SO THEN THEY CAN COME THROUGH INSTEAD INSTEAD OF HAVING COME IN THE HALLWAY.

BUT IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE MAJOR WE GOTTA HAVE IT THING.

WE HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT IT AND BOBBY SAID, WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR IT, MS. KAREN, I'LL DO IT FOR YOU.

AND I SAID, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I SAID, YOU HAVE ENOUGH PROJECTS WHAT JUDGE WOOD AND THE COMMISSIONERS WANT YOU TO DO SO YOU CAN PUT ME ON THE BACK LIST.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET MAD ABOUT IT.

I GET HOLD OF FLOOD JAM RIGHT THERE.

WE, I KNOW YOU CAN'T.

ONE OF THE, IT'S ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS HAVE, UH, REALLY, UM, BRAGGED ON US ABOUT IS BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME IN WE GIVE THEM ACCESS TO OUR SOFTWARE SO THEY CAN LOOK AROUND AT ALL THE STUFF THEY WANT, ALL THE DOCUMENTS WE'VE GOT SCANNED IN BEHIND THE BILLS.

AND IT MAKES IT VERY TRANSPARENT AND EASY FOR THEM.

AND KW HAS REALLY LEARNED HOW TO DO ALL THE SCHEDULES.

THEY SEND US ALONG USUALLY A TWO TO THREE PAGE LIST OF THE THINGS THEY WANT TO LOOK AT.

LIKE THEY WANT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RECEIPTS AND COPIES OF THOSE RECEIPTS THAT THE TREASURER DOES.

THEY WANT THINGS FROM THE JP OFFICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THEIR MAJOR CONCERNS WAS THAT I ONLY HAVE ONE JP THAT'S ACTUALLY COMPLIANT TO WHAT THE REQUEST IS.

TWO YEARS AGO THERE WAS A FINDING OF SIGNATURE STAMPS BEING LOCKED UP AND WE KNOW IF THEY COME THIS YEAR TO DO THE AUDIT, THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT AND THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AND SEE IF THOSE SIGNATURE STAMPS ARE LOCKED UP.

OR AT LEAST ACCESS LIMITED.

YEAH, ACCESS LIMITED.

BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE ONE STAMP AND THEY HAVE TO COME TO ME TO GET IT.

I HAVE IT LOCKED AND IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK AND GET MY STAMP, IF I'M OUT, I USUALLY GIVE IT ACCESS TO IT TO CHUCK OR UM, KW SO THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT IF I'M OUT, YOU KNOW.

BUT THEY CAN GET CHECK STAMPS.

SOME OF THE OFFICES, EVERY EMPLOYEE HAS A SIGNATURE STAMP AND THAT'S NOT GOOD.

BETTY NO ONE REASON IS BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE THAT SIGNATURE STAMP, THEY CAN DISMISS CASES, THEY CAN ACTUALLY COLLECT CASH, DISMISS THE CASE IN THE SYSTEM AND OR WHY NOT WOULD BE NOBODY WOULD KNOW.

'CAUSE THEY'D HAVE THAT SIGNATURE STAMPED TO APPROVE IT.

WE KNOW THAT THERE, UH, NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF BECAUSE WE HAVE SET SOME INTERNAL CONTROLS INTO OUR INTERNAL AUDITS THAT THOSE THINGS ARE BEING LOOKED AT BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR A LISTING OF ALL THE CASES DISMISSED AND THEN WE GO AND VERIFY SOME, WE ACTUALLY SEND LETTERS OUT TO THE CITIZENS.

YOU CAME INTO COURT AND YOU WERE FINED $225.

DID YOU PAY 2 25? OKAY.

OR RECORDS SHOW THAT YOU PAID THIS AMOUNT.

I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT'S JUST SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET ALL DONE, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF, UH, YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS GET UPSET WITH ME BECAUSE THEY'LL CALL ME AND SAY THERE'S AUDITORS DOWNSTAIRS AND WE'RE NOT LETTING THEM UP.

'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE, YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN APPOINTMENT.

AND I SAID, MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, I CAN AUDIT YOU ANY TIME AND DO I NEED TO CALL THE SHERIFF TO GET ACCESS THE MONEY? AND THEY GOT RIGHT IN IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES.

AND WE HAD SOME OTHER ISSUES AT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER 'CAUSE THEY WERE RUNNING AROUND TRYING

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TO FIND THE MONEY OR THE CAT, THE RECEIPTS AND BRINGING STUFF BACK.

AND WE TOLD 'EM, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE THAT MONEY AND ACCOUNT FOR AND THAT'S YOUR JOB.

I MEAN THAT'S WHAT YES, SIR.

AND I MEAN MY STAFF DOES IT IN A NICE WAY.

SOMETIMES THEY STILL DON'T THINK IT'S IN A NICE WAY BECAUSE WHO WANTS TO BE AUDITED.

BUT THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS LOOK AT OUR WORK TO SEE IF WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE COUNTY.

AND IF IT WASN'T, YOU'D BE SEEING A FINDING THAT YOUR AUDITOR'S PROBABLY NOT DOING HER JOB BECAUSE THINGS ARE NOT BEING DONE.

AND UH, CHUCK HAS WORKED WITH KW ENOUGH THAT HE HAS FINALLY DETAILED IT DOWN THAT HE'S GIVEN THE REPORTS HE NEEDS FROM THE TAX OFFICE AND THE AUTO WRECK AND MS. SAMPLES HAS HELPED US CLEAN UP SOME STUFF THAT WE WERE QUESTIONING BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE IN, IN HIGHER POSITIONS IN THOSE OFFICES DECIDED THEY WANTED TO CHANGE PROCEDURES AND NOT DO SOME OF THE REPORTS THEY NEEDED.

AND NOW SHE'S ON BOARD WITH US.

THAT'S A WAY OF TRACKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE SINCE STAYED THEIR MONEY.

WE GOT OUR MONEY.

SO GOOD.

GOOD.

YEAH, BECAUSE BEFORE WE GOT HERE THAT TAX OFFICE WAS NOT UNDER AUDIT.

I MEAN, THE CLOSEST THING TO AUDIT WAS BANK RECORDS AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WHICH DOESN'T GIVE YOU EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AN AUDIT PROGRAM FOR BOTH THE TAX AND THE AUTO SIDE.

SOME OFFICES WERE PUT IN CASH AND CHECKS IN AN ENVELOPE AND JUST UNSEALED LAYING IT ON TOP OF THEIR DESK.

IT WASN'T BEING SAFEGUARDED.

THEY WERE BRINGING THEM ACROSS THE STREET TO BE RECEDED.

AND I MEAN, PEOPLE WATCH THAT PATTERN THAT ARE THIEVES AND YOU KNOW, WE GOT 'EM LOCKED, LOCKED BAGS AND STUFF TO PROTECT.

AND I THINK DARLA, WHEN SHE BRINGS THE COUNTY CLERK'S MONEY OUT, SHE HAS IT LOCKED UP, BUT SHE HAS IT IN A BIGGER BAG OF PURSE, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS.

SO WE KEEP IT, WE TRY TO KEEP IT PROTECTED.

UM, THERE WAS AN ISSUE IN THE CAMP OFFICE WITH TAX MONEY BEING BROUGHT IN AND IT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE DAYS.

OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE'S SUPPOSED TO BE RECEDED.

SO MS. SAMPLES IS WORKING ON THAT.

'CAUSE WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE WITH PRECINCT THREE LAST YEAR AND COMMISSIONER COURT TALKED WITH THE CONSTABLE AND NOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO BRING THAT MONEY.

BUT WITH, UM, PRECINCT FOUR BEING SO SHORT OF A CONSTABLE FOR A WHILE, VANESSA COULDN'T BRING IT, BUT SHE COULDN'T BRING IT EVERY DAY.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS PART OF THE ISSUE.

UH, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW HOW YOU MAY HAVE GOT THE SAME EMAIL, GEORGE SAID, UH, WELL SOMEBODY CALLED ME ABOUT THE TIME I SAW REGION ANYWAY, IT SAID THAT THEY HAD A ACCIDENT AT SIX 15 AT 34 NORTH AND PARK STREET, I GUESS.

UH, AND IT RESULTED IN A MAJOR FIBER CUT WITH THE SOUTH CAMPUS ADMINISTRATIVE LINES, UH, THE SOUTH CAMPUS ADMINISTRATIVE LINES, NOT 9 1 1 AND SOME LINES THAT MATERIAL SUB HOUSE OR SUB COURTHOUSE OR, AND SO REPLIES SHOULD BE, REPAIRS SHOULD BE COMPLETE BETWEEN 10 12 TODAY.

WE'RE TEMPORARILY REROUTING CRITICAL LINES AT THIS MOMENT.

SO THAT'S AN UPDATE ON WHY SOME OF THE PROBLEM AREN'T, UH, UH, WORKING.

RIGHT.

BUT AT LEAST 9 1 1 AT LEAST HE KNOWS THE LINES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO GET THEM PASSED ON SO THEY CAN STILL DO THE WORK.

RIGHT.

AND GET STUFF.

OKAY.

CAN WE, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DIDN'T, I HADN'T REQUESTED ANYTHING.

I WAS GONNA WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE, THE DISTRICT JUDGES.

I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED TOMORROW.

YEAH, THAT'S THE 22ND.

OUR CELL PHONES.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE SENIOR CONNECT AND UH, SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THAT.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

AND, UH, WE ABOUT YOU GUYS AND, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU ASKED FOR IN, WE HAVE SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS AND, AND SOME, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE.

YOU WANNA COUNT DOWN WHAT ALL THAT MONEY HELPS YOU GUYS DO.

SERVE MEALS ON WHEELS.

, LAST YEAR IN HARLAND COUNTY WE SERVED 121 THOUSANDS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE ALSO DO COUNTY, THE, THE COUNTY SYSTEM IS SEPARATE AND WE KNOW THAT EACH GUN IS CARRYING THEIR OWN WEIGHT.

AND, UM, BUT OF COURSE I DO.

I I WANTED TO COME TODAY TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER COURT FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THROUGH THE YEARS THAT Y'ALL HAVE GIVEN US BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TREMENDOUS.

AND Y'ALL, UM,

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I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER ALLEN IS KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH OUR OPERATIONS BECAUSE YOUR WIFE IS ON OUR BOARD.

YES, MA'AM.

YES.

AND UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1979.

IT WAS KAMAN COUNTY SENIOR CITIZEN SERVICES.

UM, THAT HAS CHANGED FOR A REASON.

WE DO MORE THAN KAMAN COUNTY COUNTY.

WE, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH STAR TRANSIT TO DO ELDERLY TRANSPORTATION IN ROCK ELLIS, UH, KAUFMAN AND VERA COUNTY.

AND UH, WE DO MEALS ON WHEELS COUNTY AND IT KIND OF, COMAN COUNTY JUST KIND OF SET US HERE.

AND THAT'S NOT ALL OF WHAT WE DO.

BUT LIKE I SAID, OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM IS SEPARATE.

EVERYBODY PAYS THEIR OWN WAY.

UM, AND WITHOUT Y'ALL'S GUYS, WE HAVE TO CUT, WE HAVE TO CUT BACK TREMENDOUSLY.

JUDGE WOOD, DOES THE COMMISSION RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THEM LIKE ON A QUARTERLY OR ANNUAL BASIS OF WHAT THEY RECEIVED AND WHAT THEIR BUDGET IS? I DON'T THINK WE DO.

FROM CITIZEN.

YES.

YEP.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

MAYBE QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY OR WHATEVER, JUST SO WE'LL SEE.

WE'RE GETTING THAT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER YES.

UH, ENTITIES.

AND IF THAT'S NOT TOO MUCH PROBLEM, YES, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND WE CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY MEALS WE HAD SERVED IN THAT MONTH AND, UM, WHAT THE EXPENSES WERE FOR THAT MONTH.

AND UM, IF YOU WOULD SOME, IF WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF MY CARDS AND WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT INFORMATION Y'ALL WOULD LIKE.

OKAY.

ANGIE WOULD BE THE CONTACT IN MY OFFICE.

SO YOU CAN CALL.

OKAY.

ANGIE? YES.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

ANGIE WOULD KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU TO GET AHOLD OF ME.

UH, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THE COUNTY AUDITOR IN NAVARRA COUNTY HAS CALLED AND ASKED ME WHAT REPORTS WE RECEIVE AND DO WHY HAVE THOSE REPORTS? NO, THEY DID GET A REPORT AND WE DID, EXCUSE ME, WHO CALL DID YOU SAY FROM NAVARRA COUNTY AUDIT? NAVARRA COUNTY AUDIT.

WE WERE TALKING, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AUDITS AND WE MAKE GOOD MONEY FOR AUDIT EVERY YEAR FOR LIKE 1536, $7,000 FOR PRIVATE AUDIT.

AND UH, IT'S ALWAYS CLEAN.

IT'S ALWAYS CLEAN.

IT'D BE GOOD IF WE HAD COPIES AHEAD TOO.

I CAN SEND THAT.

IN FACT, ON MANY OF THESE OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT WE SEND MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, WE GET 'EM FROM WE SHOULD GET ONE.

YEAH, WE SHOULD GET ONE BECAUSE HIS TAX MONEY.

YEAH.

WE CAN SEND Y'ALL A REPORT.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

'CAUSE WE DO AND, AND I MEAN EVERYTHING I HEAR IS JUST GREAT ABOUT WHAT THE SERVICES SAID.

WELL THERE'S LITTLE LADY IN CRADLE THAT HE MAY GET CALL FROM THAT DOESN'T GET CALLED EVERY DAY.

OKAY.

I'M, I'LL PROBABLY BE ON HER SIDE.

WE GET IT HOME EVERY WEEK WHEN THIS LITTLE LADY, BUT I REALLY LIKE YOUR COPPER.

I WISH YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME EVERY DAY.

AND WE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO HER THAT WE HAD GUIDELINES.

YOU GO AND I'LL TAKE CO I'LL ADMIT OUR COBBS ARE GOOD, BUT WE CAN'T, THAT DIETICIAN WON'T LET US SERVE COBBLER.

BUT I DO WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND UM, IT'S, IT, KAMAN COUNTY HAS BEEN A INSPIRATION TO US TO KEEP FEEDING ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT WE DO NOW WE SERVE ABOUT, OH, MEALS ON THE ANNUAL BASIS.

THERE'S INDIVIDUALS MAYBE LIKE 600 THEY'LL DROP OFF.

SERVING ABOUT SIX INDIVIDUAL.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE FOR ME? ANYBODY HAVE ANY? JUST THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

OKAY.

THANK, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THAT'S, YOU DID GO BACK TO AUDIT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO, UH, YA, THERE'S GEORGE RIGHT THERE.

SO CALL TAKE A WHILE.

YEAH.

IT IT'LL TAKE A WHILE.

YOU WON'T COME AND GET THE HOT SEAT.

.

WHAT? YOU'VE BEEN IN THE HOT SEAT ALL MORNING MAN.

YEAH, I JUST LEFT THE SITE WHERE IT HAPPENED.

IT WAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S FAULT.

THE WIRE WENT OUT A TRUCK AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME UP THERE AND WENT CUT INSTEAD OF BLOWING IT OFF.

READY FOR ME DOWN.

YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY BUDDY, YOU

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CAN'T SPRAY.

DID YOU THINK WE WERE PICKING RIGHT THERE? 34 PARK AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A HOT, THEY KIND OF HEAR OFF THE ROAD SIX 15 THIS MORNING.

HIT THAT TELEPHONE POLE.

YEAH.

KIND OF GOT LING CUT.

WHERE IS HE PARKED? JUST OUT THIS GROVE GROVE.

MAKE A LEFT OUT 34 NEXT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

STANDING RIGHT CLOSE TO THE PARK.

YEAH.

ALL FIELDS OUT THERE.

YEAH, WE GOT THE ADMIN REROUTED.

THEY'RE COMING UP.

WE'RE GETTING THROWN BACK UP RIGHT NOW.

9 1 1 WAS NOT A FAKE.

NO, NO.

WE WE'RE ROUTING.

WE'RE ROUTING.

ONE RING THROUGH CENTURY TO GET OUT THERE, GEORGE.

YES.

YES MA'AM.

YESTERDAY WE WERE TALKING WITH HR WHEN SHE WENT THROUGH HER BUDGET AND SHE WANTED TO GET THE KIOSK.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM.

I KNOW, BUT CAN YOU LET ME FINISH? ALRIGHT, ON THE KIOSK IT'S GONNA BE IN THIS FOUR OFFICE OVER HERE.

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

THAT QUOTE THAT YOU TOLD HER, PROBABLY COST WOULD BE ON FOR JUST THE FOUR COMPUTERS.

AND THERE'S LARGER SCREENS, RIGHT? MONITORS? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

WHERE YOU GONNA PUT 'EM? WE GOTTA HAVE DESKS AND CHAIRS.

THAT'S NOT PROBLEM.

.

HEY LAUREN, DO YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA DESKS THERE? NO, I HAVE SOME FINE CANS.

WE COULD PUT 'EM ON OUR SIDE.

WE, WE COULD TURN 'EM AND, AND TOTALLY DO A PEN SORT OF THING.

SORRY.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR OFFICES NOWADAYS, EVERYONE'S STANDING ALL DAY LONG.

WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE.

I HATE YOU ALL THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THOSE.

IT'S A TEMPORARY THING.

THOSE WHITE TABLES, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE OUT AT THE TRAINING ROOM, WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE FOLDING TABLES.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE WHITE.

WELL, HEY, WHEN Y'ALL ARE OUT THERE, WHEN WE MOVED YOU OUT THERE AND THEN YOU MOVED BACK, REMEMBER THOSE WHITE TABLES? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T CARE.

YEAH, WE CAN GET THOSE.

THOSE ARE CHEAP.

SO WHERE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THESE? I THE ONLY OPTION I HAVE IS IN MY PHONE ROOM.

COULD IT BE PUT IN THE HALL HERE? THEY COULD, BUT THEN THERE'LL BE COMPUTERS SITTING IN THE HALL THEN.

I MEAN, I WONDER HOW SECURE THAT IS.

JUST TO FILL, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA BE FILLING OUT APPLICATIONS? BECAUSE THAT WAS MY FIRST EXPLANATION IS TO PUT THEM IN THE HALL.

THEY'RE ALL OUT AS FAR AS THE DESK FOR THE TABLE.

I THINK WE HAVE, WE CAN FIND THAT LISA, I'M SURE.

I THINK WE HAVE MAYBE HAVE TO LOG FIX IT WHERE IT'S PASSWORD PROTECTED.

YEAH.

AND JUST HAVE TO LOG THEM ON WHEN THEY COME IN.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S THAT HR GIVES THEM PASSWORD, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND THEY SHOULD, THIS BUILDING IS LOCKED DOWN AT NIGHT AND IT'S OKAY WITH THAT.

IT'S EASIER FOR US IF YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'RE RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

I DON'T ANYBODY, I, I THINK IT'D BE, I JUST HAVE IT ALL.

I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE ISSUE.

LISA, YOU YEAH, THAT WE COULD PROBABLY GET JUST SOME OF THOSE SMALL LIKE WORK, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT YOU USED TO HAVE IN YOUR OFFICE THAT HAD ALL THE STUFF, ALL THE PANELS AND STUFF WITH IT.

YEAH.

THAT WERE REALLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS YEAH, LIKE A LITTLE CUBICLE.

IT'S DIVIDED CUBICLE STATION OF SOME SORT, WHICH I THINK WE'VE ALREADY AUCTIONED ALL THOSE OFF NOW.

BUT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

HUH? THEY'RE NOT TERRIBLY MAKES I WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK SO.

I MEAN, ALWAYS HAVE CHECK, BUT STUPID.

HOW MANY DO YOU THINK YOU'D NEED? IT'LL DO FOUR.

DO YOU THINK YOU'LL NEED FOUR? ALL BECAUSE, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT I, UM, SOME MONDAY MORNINGS I HAVE FOUR PEOPLE HERE DOING ORIENTATION.

BUT NOT EVERY MONDAY.

BUT SOME MONDAYS WE DO HAVE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE AT A TIME DOING ORIENTATION.

WHAT WAS THE TOTAL COST TO THIS? 3,500 WERE JUST COMPUTERS.

OH, OKAY.

COMPUTERS AND MONITORS.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID YESTERDAY.

35, RIGHT? WELL YOU'RE GONNA GET DEFINITE QUOTE.

YEAH, WELL, I THINK IS BUILD THE, SHE OUT THERE WITH THE SLOTS ON IT.

GET FOUR STOOLS.

YOU TAKE THE STOOLS AWAY AND SET 'EM SOMEWHERE.

AND WHEN THEY COME THEY CAN MISS, THEY SLIDE UP UNDERNEATH WHAT IF UP UNDERNEATH.

UP UNDERNEATH THE HOW LONG, HOW LONG WAS THE ORIENTATION WHEN THEY SHOW UP? HOW LONG IT WELL, I, I MEAN IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT, IT COULD BE COMPUTER, I MEAN FRIENDLY, I DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE IT'S A NEW PROGRAM.

OH.

SO IT'S GONNA BE FILLING OUT ALL THEIR NEW HIRE PAPERWORK, GOING THROUGH ALL THEIR BENEFITS AND FILLING OUT ALL THEIR BENEFIT PAPERWORK.

IT'S ALSO GONNA BE USED FOR APPLICANTS WHO COME IN WHO DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER AT HOME TO FILL OUT APPLICATIONS.

SO IT'S GOT A, IT'S GOT A DUAL PURPOSE.

IT WILL VARY.

SO WE HAVE THAT MUCH TURNOVER THAT YEAH.

THAT OFFICE IS AT ANY

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GIVEN TIME.

I DON'T EVEN HAVE A ROOM TO MOVE AROUND IN THAT OFFICE.

THERE'S PEOPLE PILED UP AT THAT LITTLE TABLE.

YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO DO ORIENTATION.

YOU CAN'T WALK THROUGH THERE.

IT'S, IT'S A MESS.

WOW.

OKAY.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SEND THEIR PEOPLE UP HERE.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST TO HELP THEM OUT.

THAT'S NOT GONNA THAT ORIENTATION TOO.

INSURANCE.

IT CAN BE, BUT I'D REALLY RATHER THEM DO IT ON A COMPUTER.

WE CAN HOOK THEM UP WITH CLOUD BASED STUFF TOO.

AND I CAN DO IT THERE IF I HAVE TO.

WE CAN DO IT ON A COMPUTER THERE.

BUT THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO COME HERE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE THAT COME FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WHAT I'M THINKING MIGHT BE THREE COMPUTERS AND GET YOU A LAPTOP TO TAKE, UH, WHEN YOU GO TO THOSE, THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION HERE.

I MEAN, JUST SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT.

MAKE IT PORTABLE THAT WAY.

I DON'T CARE.

I'M JUST ASKING.

'CAUSE THAT'S A GOOD OPTION.

'CAUSE WE WANT TO PUT THAT IN THAT SOFTWARE.

HAVE YOU PUT IN A, A MAINTENANCE COST ALSO FOR HER HR.

WE APPROVED THAT IN COURT THAT DAY AND THAT'S THE LAST I HEARD OF IT.

THERE WAS NO, WE KNEW WE WERE DOING IT.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS GOING.

SO WE NEED TO ADD 'CAUSE WE DID ONE YEAR.

I THINK WE TRY IT OUT.

WE DIDN'T DO A LONG CONTRACT, SO YEAH.

IT WAS A ONE YEAR THING.

I REMEMBER THAT.

MM-HMM .

LISA, YOU LOOK COLD FREEZING ALWAYS GO.

SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE DETERMINED.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD GO AHEAD AND GET IN PLACE NOW? IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THEIR COMPUTERS? WE WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.

WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

OKAY.

AND SO, AND YOU WORK WITH GETTING WHATEVER TABLE OR WHATEVER KIND OF SET UP THEY NEED.

WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT IN THE HALL OR WHATEVER Y'ALL, I MEAN I, EVERYBODY SATISFIED WITH THE HALL, I BELIEVE.

GET SOME BIG HALLS, SO, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE PLENTY OF ROOM.

YEAH.

SO, OKAY.

JUST DO LAPTOPS.

JUST DO LAPTOPS? WELL THEY COULD BE CARRIED OFF PRETTY EASY OF COURSE.

YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO CARRY A LAPTOP OFF THAN IT ISN'T.

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT'D BE THE ONLY, ONLY THING.

BUT AGAIN, THE BUILDING IS SECURED AT THE NIGHT ON WEEKENDS.

GEORGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT UH, UH, FUND 6 9 9 AND THAT IS THE, UH, IT DIRECTOR.

AND UH, SO, UH, YOU'VE NOT ASKED FOR, UH, A VEHICLE FOR GAUGE? YES.

WE COMPLETED OUR, UM, WE HAD OUR FIRST NEW AUDIT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN IN A FLOOD BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME.

WE'VE NEVER ISSUED FLOOD PLAIN PERMITS.

WE NOW ARE.

SO WE HAVE A REVENUE, WE HAVE REVENUE FROM IN SUCCESS BEING TIED NORMAL ONE COUNTY MAPPING.

WE ALSO WILL HAVE A REVENUE STREAM FOR FLOOD.

WHERE DOES THAT WE WOULD DID NOT PUT THAT IN THERE.

'CAUSE IT WAS HARD TO FORECAST THAT BECAUSE IT WAS BRAND NEW.

WE JUST, NOW HE ISSUED PERMITS FOR ALL THE VIOLATIONS WE HAD, UH, AND THESE WORK.

BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE EXTRA MONEY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT THERE WAS WE GOT THIS KID GOING OUT, YOU KNOW, COUNTY ROAD IS DOING FOLLOW UP INVESTIGATIONS, YOU KNOW, FLOOD PLAN ISSUES AND THERE'S A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE AND THAT'S THE LITTLE ONE.

I THINK LISA'S LOWEST ONE WE FOUND WAS THAT LITTLE ESCAPE.

ESCAPE.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

BUT THAT'S THE THOUGHT.

AND AS FAR AS THE MAP, AS FAR AS GIS MAPPING ADDRESSING WE'RE, IT'S GETTING CRAZY.

WE HAD OVER 50 JUST IN A MONTH OF MAY.

REALLY BUSY A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

JUST SO EVERYBODY WILL KNOW WHAT HE DOES ON THE 9 1 1.

GIVE US A SHORT YEAH, SO HE IS RESPONSIBLE.

SO THE SA DATA, WHICH IS ALL THE DATA THAT NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT USES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE TO KEEP THAT LIVE AND UPDATED AT ALL TIMES.

WE PUSH THAT TO A LOT OF AREAS AND WE'RE GONNA BE PUSHING IT TO PUB WORKS.

WE'RE DOING A GO LIVE TOMORROW.

WE'RE DOING INSTALL.

SO PUB WORKS WILL BE PUSHING THAT LATER TOO.

BUT ANYWAY, SO WHAT WE'RE GRADED BY, HOW SUCCESSFUL HE IS KNOW FIXING ERRORS AND BEING THE RUB.

WHEN HE STARTED, WE WERE THE VERY BOTTOM AND NOW WE ARE TIED WITH BEN KELLY.

WE LEARNED THE NORTH OF TEXAS COUNCIL.

SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO KEEP ALL THIS STUFF UP TO DATE.

HE ALSO HAS A PUBLIC WEBSITE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE HE PROVIDES ALL KINDS OF DATA TO WHOEVER NEEDS IT.

HE ALSO PUSHES THE DATA TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, TO PATROL VEHICLE PUSHES A LOT OF ACTIVITY JUST IN THE GI IS RAIL.

AND ON TOP OF THAT WE'RE

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ALSO, YOU KNOW, DOING FLOOD PLANE PERMIT.

SO IT'S, THAT WHOLE AREA IS GONNA REALLY GROW BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, WE, IN ALL THE YEARS, THE PRIOR FOLKS DID IT, WE JUST NEVER, NEVER ISSUED FLOOD PLANE PERMITS.

WE WE COULDN'T GOT SPANKED REALLY HARD BY .

YEAH.

UH, AND YOU MIGHT NOTICE, BASED ON WHAT GEORGE IS SAYING, WE ARE GONNA RECEIVE, AND I KNOW KAREN, I THINK I SENT YOU A COPY OF THIS, AN ADDITIONAL 21,000, NOT AN ADDITIONAL BUT 21,000 FROM CO TO OFFSET, UH, SOME OF THE EXPENSES IN THAT.

UM, OKAY.

UH, YOU IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF HIS, HIS YEAH, I'VE SEEN THAT PART.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO AND THAT'S BASED ON WHAT HE WAS D GEORGE WAS JUST SAYING ABOUT, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE REALLY EMBARRASSING YES.

AT THE BOTTOM.

AND NOW WE'RE RIGHT UP THERE WITH COLIN CAB.

WE HAD SUBDIVISIONS, WE GOT GUYS RUNNING CODE THREE TO SUBDIVISIONS THAT AREN'T ON A MAP WAS RIDICULOUS.

YEAH.

SO, BUT THERE'S TWO LINEUPS.

ONE IS THE VEHICLE AND THE OTHER WE'RE ASKING FOR A BODY TO HELP HIM, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE, UH, THANKS THE JUDGE GIVING AN S WHAT, FEW WEEKS AGO, UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW BUSY WE WERE.

OKAY.

ONCE WE INITIATED A TICKING SYSTEM AND REALIZED A TREMENDOUS FLOW OF THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I SAID, I'M AN IDIOT.

I'M, I'M TOLD EVERY YEAR, DON'T ASK FOR ANYTHING.

TRY TO CUT AND SAY I, I GUESS I, YOU KNOW, BURN MY OWN BRIDGE DOING THAT.

THAT WAS NUMBER THAN YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME SAY.

SO BOTTOM LINE IS, WE'RE THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LADY IN WAITING TO ANSWER THE PHONE AND DO THINGS, YOU KNOW, A SECRETARY ASSISTANT LABOR COLLEGE.

AND I DON'T WANT A FULL TIME PERSON TO ANSWER THE PHONE.

I WANT A PERSON THAT CAN, A STUDENT WHO'S PROBABLY IN GIS WHO CAN DO MULTIPLE THINGS, HELP FLOOD, HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, LEARN SOME OF THE GIS STUFF THAT WE'VE GROWN, BUT ALSO BE THERE TO ANSWER THE PHONE AND TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH, WITH THE TICKETING 'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WHEREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WELL, UM, MAYBE A COMMISSIONER THAT'S NOT SURE HOW YOU HANDLE YOUR TICKET.

I DON'T KNOW BOBBY, HE HAS A SECRETARY THAT CAN SIT THERE AND DO THAT.

WE JUST DO IT ON A FLY.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO FROM CALL TO CALL.

WE SIT THERE AND HIM, I, I DIDN'T CHECK THIS MORNING, BUT I THINK WE'RE OVER 650, UM, YESTERDAY.

BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.

WELL THAT FOR YOUR INVENTORY PURPOSES, BECAUSE YOUR INVENTORY'S A HOT MESS WITH WE HAVE THOUSAND BECAUSE OF IT.

YES.

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS SKEWS OF INVENTORY.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A LADY IN WAITING.

YOU CAN SIT THERE.

I SHOULDN'T SAY WE DON'T HAVE A CLERICAL PERSON THAT CAN SIT THERE AND KIND OF DO WHAT YOUR CLERICAL PEOPLE DO.

SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR, UH, A PART-TIME? WE'RE ASKING FOR WE WOULD LIKE A FULL-TIME, BUT WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT UP TO THE WISEMAN BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW THE BUDGET AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

WE WOULD LIKE A FULL-TIME PERSON, BUT MOST OF HIS WORK WOULD BE HELPING GAUGE WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT AND THE REST.

BUT HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD'VE A PLACE TO SIT AND WORK OR WHATEVER.

BUT I THINK AS THE COUNTY GROWS AND ONCE WE REALIZED THE MAGNITUDE OF THE WORK WE HAD, I MEAN, I BELIEVE WE'RE THE ONLY DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE SUCH A WE DON'T HAVE ONE.

WE DON'T HAVE ONE.

I DON'T HAVE ONE.

KAREN.

WE DON'T HAVE ONE.

DO YOU? I DON'T HAVE ONE.

YOU GOT? I DON'T HAVE ONE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I JUST THROW IT OUT THERE.

WE CAN JUST SAVE THAT.

WE, YOU DON'T BRING IT UP BECAUSE EVERYBODY BE ASKING FOR ONE NOW BECAUSE, WE'LL, I DON'T HAVE LADY IN WAITING.

I MIGHT HAVE CLERICAL, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LADY IN WAITING.

CLERICAL CARD.

GOOGLE THAT.

OKAY.

UH, LET'S, SO 21,000 IS GONNA COME FROM NET COST.

WELL WE WERE GETTING LIKE 10,000.

SO THAT WAS THE INCREASE TO THAT GRANT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

CORRECT.

IT WILL GO TO 21,000.

I THINK WE WERE GETTING 10 AND I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT HAD AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT IT.

YEAH, WELL I HONESTLY JUST, YOU RAISE IT TO PEOPLE.

I WISH THEY HAD, BUT I, WE WERE, THERE WERE A NUMBER ACCOUNT THAT GETTING A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE WERE.

AND SO THAT A COG WENT INTO STUDY AND, AND FOUND OUT THAT OTHER COUNTIES WERE DOING A BETTER JOB THAN SOME OF THE COUNTIES THAT WERE.

ANYWAY.

UH, CON COUNTY IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE WITH ANYTHING.

A COG BE QUITE FRANK.

THEY'RE THE BIG, BIG GUYS, YOU KNOW, AND SO ANYWAY, THAT THEY, THEIR FUNDING WENT DOWN SOME AND, UH, BUT IT WILL GO, I THINK WE'RE GETTING 10.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE, IT'LL RECORD.

YOU WE'RE CURRENTLY GETTING 24,500 A YEAR.

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OH, YOU WENT DOWN.

NO, BUT IT IS GOING UP.

I, I, I GAGE HAS SENT ME THAT OR I THINK IT CAME TO ME FIRST.

I SENT IT OVER TO GAUGE, SEE WHAT IT WAS AND IT IS INCREASING.

OKAY.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY GETTING 24,500 DIFFERENCE.

SHOULD BE 21.

OKAY.

SO IT'S GOING UP TO LIKE 45 ABOUT RIGHT.

CHECK THAT OUT.

ADDITIONAL WORK.

A VEHICLE OR OTHER EXPENSES.

LADY TAKE WAITING.

HOW MUCH DOES A LADY WAITING COST? THAT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I NOBODY'S HAD TIME TO CHECK THAT YET.

IS DOING, UH, LEASING SOME VEHICLES RATHER THAN OUTRIGHT PURCHASING.

AND SO WE'RE INVESTIGATING THAT.

THAT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CUT THIS BACK QUITE A BIT.

DOESN'T CARE.

LONG.

FOUR WHEEL DRIVE.

OKAY.

ENVY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I DO.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE BACKGROUND WISE.

I GUESS IT'S LEXINEXIS, BUT IS THAT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? UM, SIX NINE.

SEVEN SEVEN.

BUT WE'RE ON SIX.

NINE.

NINE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT WE MOVED.

I THOUGHT WE WERE, I JUST WANTED TO, BEFORE WE LEAVE 6 99.

IS ANYBODY OKAY, I'M SORRY.

NO, NO, WE CAN.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO 6 97 AND UH, UH, GEORGE, YOU AND I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THIS, THE LANDLINES SPECIFICALLY AND OUR FARM SYSTEM.

SO THE LANDLINE LINE ON IT IS A MISNOMER.

THERE ARE LANDLINES IN THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT LANDLINE, OKAY, TELL ME WHAT IT IS.

LANDLINES.

SO VOICE AND DATA.

UM, THERE ARE CRITICAL DATA LINES THAT WE USE LIKE, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DISPATCH.

SEE, SO, AND THEN THERE ARE THE PHONE LINES.

SO THE PHONE LINES WOULD BE THE PI.

AND SO, SO WE LET TOMMY DO ALL THE, DO ALL THE PHONE FOR THEN HE WOULD WANT TO TAKE ALL THE LANDLINES, HE WOULD WANNA TAKE P COPPER AND ALL THAT.

AND IF WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF JOHNNY, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT.

UM, SO I TALKED TO JOHNNY YESTERDAY.

THIS IS A GUY NAMED WHO'S JOHNNY? JOHNNY WOOD.

JOHNNY WOOD IS A CONTRACTOR.

HE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY OVER 30 YEARS.

YEAH.

AND NO RELATION BY THE WAY, MOTHER FROM ANOTHER BROTHER.

BROTHER FROM OTHER.

SO, AND HE KIND OF REMINDED ME OF HOW IT ALL SHOOK, SHOOK OUT.

SO IT WAS ACTUALLY 13 YEARS AGO THAT HE CAME TO COUNTY AND SAID, BECAUSE OF AN ILLNESS, HE WAS GONNA STEP DOWN AND NO LONGER SUPPORT THE SYSTEM.

13 YEARS AGO.

I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT LONG AGO.

SO AT THE TIME, UH, THINGS GOT VERY DIFFICULT AND HE REMINDED ME THAT I'M THE GUY THAT FIRED HIM BACK THEN.

AND WE WENT TO A KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENT WHO WAS OUR MITEL.

IT WAS A COMPLETE DISASTER.

SO JOHNNY WIND UP COMING BACK, BUT WE STILL, THE COURT AT THE TIME APPOINTED A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT FORKLIFTING.

THAT WHOLE MITEL SYSTEM OUT HERE, BECAUSE IT BEEN, EVERYBODY KNOW WENT THE MYTEL MYTEL AND THE PHONES COUNTY ALL OVER HOME SYSTEM.

IS IT EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY? WELL, WITH FEW EXCEPTIONS.

THERE'S SOME BARNS THAT HAVE, UH, I THINK THERE'S MAPLE.

MAPLE AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SAY THAT, BUT, UM, SO ANYWAY, SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE COURT AT THE TIME APPOINTED A COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE LOOKING AND THIS WORK LOOKED AT, JUST START OVER.

WE LOOKED AT THE BUYER, WE LOOKED AT CISCO, WE LOOKED AT SHORETEL, WE LOOKED AT ALL WORKS AND WE WERE READY TO GO.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU BACK IN THOSE DAYS, THE YOU WERE ON THAT, SHE WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE.

A LOT OF FOLKS WORK.

SO WE'RE READY TO GO.

WE'RE AT FORKLIFT ALL OUT AND MOVE THE PROBLEM UNDER THE CURRENT PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, WE WERE IN A FINANCIAL MESS.

WE WERE WAY IN THE WAY.

SO THAT WHOLE THING GOT SHUT, YOU KNOW, THANKS TO THE JUDGE.

HE CAME AND, YOU KNOW, CAPTAIN CHIP, YOU KNOW, HELPED EVERYBODY.

IT WAS A TEAM.

IT GOT US IN THE FLAG.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, EIGHT YEARS AGO WE WENT THROUGH THIS.

SO IT'S NOTHING NEW.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND IT'S, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A GUY, THANKS KEITH.

HAVING A GUY IN HOUSE THAT HAS THE TECHNICAL SKILLS TO GO OUT AND DO THESE PHONES AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD, WE WOULD NEED OUR DATA.

WE CANNOT LOSE OUR DATA BECAUSE VIOLATES A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR DATA VENDORS, THEN WE'LL JEOPARDIZE OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

AND ALL THE, ALL THE STUFF WOULD BE, I COULDN'T JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THING YOU COULD DO IS PUT IN, IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND LET US ALL WORK TOGETHER THAT LET US DO ALL THE PHONES IN THE HOUSE AND LET US WORK TOGETHER.

BUT IF YOU SPLIT THAT UP, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE DONE.

WELL, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS,

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I THINK.

BUT I'M ALL FOR IT.

I'M ALL FOR THE IDEA.

THE CONCEPT IS GREAT AND LET'S, AS WE GET WITH IT, AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT AND, AND OF COURSE WHEN PEOPLE'S PHONES DON'T WORK, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL YOU, BUT THEY ALSO CALL US ME AND SAY WE CAN'T GET OUR, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I DIDN'T HAVE A TICKETING SYSTEM IN PLACE AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CALLED.

WELL, WE, WE DID.

YOU QUITE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING, THAT'S, THAT'S BEHIND US AND I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS.

YES, YOU HAVE.

AND OUR SYSTEM IS OLD TOO.

THAT'S HOW OLD IS IT? IT'S OLD ENOUGH TO VOTE.

IT'S ALMOST OLD ENOUGH TO COLLECT CLOSER SECURITY.

PRETTY OLD, BUT YEAH, NO, THE, THE BIGGER ISSUES REMOTE.

OKAY.

IT'S FREAKING RIGHT FRONT.

WHAT NOW? THE REMOTE AREAS, THE BARNS AND THE SUB.

IT, IT'S PRETTY, WOULD Y'ALL AGREE TO THAT? YES.

OKAY.

.

YEAH, THAT THE 3,300, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OVER DLC, ITS WORKS WELL.

5,000 GOOD PRODUCT.

IT'S GOOD.

IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT.

BUT WE HAD THOSE SX THOSE 40, 25 SUPER SETS.

THEY WERE HERE WHEN I CAME.

I CAME HERE 24 YEARS AGO.

I'M SURE THEY'VE BEEN UPGRADED.

YES.

YEAH, I KNOW IT WAS, I'M SURPRISED THEY'RE STILL AVAILABLE TO YOU.

YEAH.

BACK IN HOW JOHNNY GOT TO THE COUNTY.

LINDA SPENCER'S, UH, PARENTS, JOHNNY'S PARENTS MADE.

AND THAT'S HOW WE FIRST GOT THERE.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW LINDA, SHE WAS AN AUDITOR.

I SAY I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR FIVE AUDITORS.

THREE COUNTY JUDGES, 20 COMMISSIONERS, I THINK 21 COMMISSIONS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE.

ANYWAY, SHE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST AUDITORS AND THEY WERE FRIENDS.

AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT IN.

HE'S BEEN HERE BEFORE.

I BEEN, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED, WE NEED TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE.

YOU GUYS NEED TO TELL US, A COMMISSION NEEDS TO SERVE ON OUR COMMITTEE.

YOU'RE A STAKEHOLDER IN WHAT THE COUNTY HAS.

WE NEED PEOPLE TO GET TOGETHER.

LET TOMMY BE ON THAT THING AND LET'S GO OUT AND DO IT AGAIN.

LET'S GO OUT AND LOOK AND FIND A GOOD PRODUCT AND, OKAY.

I I, I, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA'S SOMETHING.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE WE, BUT WE NEED TO STRUCTURE IT SO WE'RE TO GET IT.

YEAH.

I, I TOLD WORKING, WORKING IN THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AND US, I MEAN, I, I TEXTED HIM ALL THE TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE HAD AN ISSUE COME UP WITH THE DATA CIRCUIT AND HE, HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

HE, THERE WAS A DEVICE HE WANTED TO FORWARD FOR THE, UH, SECURITY CAMERAS.

I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET'S OPEN CASE DONE.

IT'S NOT A STUFF NETWORK FOR THIS LITTLE DEVICE RIGHT HERE.

YOU PORT FORWARD, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A WAY.

YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH A SECURITY NETWORK THROUGH THE CGI.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CGI ADDENDUM.

WE SENT THE FOR SECURITY DOWN TO AUSTIN, THE FBII MEAN BOTTOM LINE IS HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WAS.

ONCE HE FOUND OUT HE CALLED APOLOGIZED TO ME AND SAYS, I'M SORRY I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.

BUT I KNOW I HAD TO GO THROUGH DO THAT.

SO HE'S A, HE'S A GREAT GUY AND HE'S VERY HONEST AND WE HAVE, I THINK HE HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AND HE HAS GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH PATRICK AS WELL.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN USING TALKING JOHNNY? NO, I SAID PATRICK.

I, PATRICK WORKS FOR OKAY GEORGE.

I THINK WE HAVE GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

VERY SHARP YOUNG MAN.

ABSOLUTELY.

PATRICK HAD GREAT JOB.

THEY KEEP THE SHARP PEOPLE UP HERE.

YEAH.

SO THAT I THINK HERE AND, UH, AS FAR AS UH, A COMMITTEE, SO WE DON'T DIVVY DADDY AROUND ON THIS.

UH, I WANT SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

UH, STEVE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SERVE? I THINK YOU'VE BEEN .

OKAY.

UH, AND UH, LET'S, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

OH, OH YEAH, BRIAN.

BECAUSE BRIAN IS VERY HAPPY WITH BRIAN WOOD AND HE'S, HE'S DONE A LOT OF IT GOING.

YEAH, HE'S RIGHT NOW WORKING OUT HIS WORK.

UH, ANYBODY, WE GOT MYSELF, COMMISSIONER, UH, SOME LIKE LAURA HUGHE BEFORE SIR ON THE COMMITTEE.

YOU HAVE TIME.

OKAY.

BUT WE WILL GO OUT, WE'LL GO TO THESE PLACES.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE PRODUCT, BRING THESE PEOPLE IN AND I MEAN, WHAT MATTERS IS THAT HIM SAID THAT YOU GUYS ARE USING, I MEAN THE BACKEND STUFF IS NOT THAT'S IT WORKS.

IT JUST WORKS.

OKAY.

WELL I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PUT BOBBY ON THE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS TOMMY.

UH, SO MAINTENANCE FACILITIES INVOLVED, KNOWING AT LEAST AT THIS LEVEL MM-HMM .

AND, UH, I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OR I'LL HAVE ANGIE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SETTING UP THE MEETING.

YEAH, SURE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

LEAVE.

HECK.

AND YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE FROM YOUR APARTMENT.

DO YOU WANT, UH, YES, ABSOLUTELY.

PROBABLY WOULD BE, UH,

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PROBABLY LORI.

SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

SHE KNOWS.

OKAY.

SHE, YOU GET ALL THOSE DOWN.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND, UH, LONG TIME WE'RE SPENDING SOME TIME, BUT ALONG WITH THAT, UH, ARE CAMERAS ON HERE? NO, WE HAD NEVER HAD A BUDGET AND THERE WAS ALWAYS, THAT'S WHY WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL AT, 'CAUSE WE, WE JUST, THERE'S NO BUDGET.

IT WAS, IT GRANT MONEY OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER HAPPENS, WE NEVER, THERE WAS NEVER BUDGET ACCOUNT.

SO DOES THE, DOES THAT IT IS NOT IN YOUR BUDGET.

WE JUST, WE NEVER HAD CAMERAS IN OUR BUDGET.

WE JUST DID IT.

OKAY.

WE USED COURTHOUSE SECURITY, JUSTICE COURT SECURITY FUNDS.

YEAH.

AND WHEN MURDERS HAPPENED, WE DID SET UP A, A LINE ITEM TO HELP GET SOME OF THOSE CAMERAS.

BUT WE HAVEN'T SET UP THAT.

YEAH.

WELL THE BIG ISSUE THAT I'VE HAD FROM SOME OF THE JPS IS, IS THAT THEY CAMERAS HAVEN'T WORKED IN TWO YEARS OR THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL ME.

AND I THINK UP AND WORKING OR ALMOST UP AND WORKING THERE.

I, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

BEEN HERE ALL WEEK.

I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

YEAH, I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THE BARN, THE BARN WORKS IF THERE'S COURTHOUSE.

I THINK IF THERE'S MONEY WE CAN MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN.

WELL I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN THIS SAME, UH, UH, ARENA WITH THIS SAME COMMITTEE ABOUT THE CAMERAS, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE.

BUT, UH, UH, I KNOW WE SPEND, UH, A LOT OF MONEY WITH VENDORS SOMETIMES.

I MEAN A TON OF MONEY AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THAT SHERIFF'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

SO, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL.

NOW WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO SOME FUNDS, UH, WITH THAT, THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND, WE HAVE UH, THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND.

AND SO IT DOESN ALL NECESSARILY GO THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

UH, BUT IT, IT COMES FROM, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS DIFFERENT SOURCES.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE, WE HAD A BARN FUND.

MAKE SURE YOU HAD A BARN BONFIRE DOWN WHEN YEAH.

YOU CAN CREATE ONE.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT VOICE AND DATA? AND LANDLINES INCLUDES THAT IN THE, UH, AND THE DESCRIPTION ON 6 9 7.

WE NEED TO SPLIT THAT SO WE HAVE A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE ACTUAL PHONE LINES AND OUR, OUR AND OUR HIGH SPEED DATA THAT SUPPORTS OUR NETWORK.

THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.

UH, AND THEN ALSO, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A SEPARATE LINE FOR CAMERAS? WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD GO OVER UNLESS TOMMY'S GONNA COME WITH US, IT WOULD COME WITH US.

OTHERWISE WE CAN BOTHER.

BUT I MEAN IF WE'RE VOICING YOU CAN'T SPLIT VOICE DATA CAN'T DO IT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

BUT WE WOULD, I THINK WE WOULD, WE WOULD WANT TO, WE WOULD WANT TOMMY, I PUT FREE THROUGH NIGHT SCHOOL TO GO FOR CISCO CERTIFICATION FREE GUY AND I THINK TOMMY WOULD BE A PERFECT CANDIDATE TO GO TO THAT SCHOOL FOR CERTIFY.

WE SHOULD BUDGET FOR THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

WHAT ABOUT COLLEGE? WE, WE DID ANOTHER CHIEF, WE ACTUALLY SENT UH, THREE ONE UP TO UH, COLLEGE UP IN UH, HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, IN FACT BARBARA AND BRUCE WENT IN AND UH, IN FACT PATRICK DID IT WHEN HE WAS STILL WORKING FOR LAURA HUGHES.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

AND THAT'S A CHEAP WAY TO DO IT.

AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH A BOOT CAMP AND THEN YOU TAKE YOUR EXAMS. WHAT IS THE CERTIFICATION? CISCO INNER NETWORKING OPERATING SYSTEM.

OH, OKAY.

OUR, OUR CORE NETWORKING INFRASTRUCTURES.

EXCEPT SOME OF THE REMOTE LOCATIONS, UH, THEY WILL.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO BACK TO MY QUESTION.

WHAT ABOUT CAMERAS? UH, WE NEED A BREAK FIX.

WE NEED A LINE ITEM EM TO ONE.

WE'RE PUTTING EITHER IN FACILITIES OR IN IT.

IT'S WHEREVER YOU DECIDE TO PUT PEOPLE, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

OKAY.

SO WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT AND HOWEVER WE DECIDE TO BREAK UP THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT BE.

BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF NEW PRODUCT OUT THERE.

IT'S GONNA BE A WARRANTY.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GONNA ALL BE REDONE AND AREAS THE SHERIFF'S RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU LOOK AT IT.

UM, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT MY .

YEAH.

OKAY.

CELL PHONES AND AIR CARDS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WE THOROUGHLY CONFUSED EVERY, EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

UH, ITEM 6 97 1 CELL PHONES AND AIR CARDS.

IS THAT EVERYBODY'S CELL PHONES? IS THAT WHERE THAT COMES?

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THOSE ARE MOSTLY AIR CARTS.

MOSTLY THOSE LITTLE MIFIS YOU KNOW, THAT WE USE FOR, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF .

THOSE ARE THE MIFIS THAT'S MOSTLY, SO GIMME THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

SO IF WE'RE, IF YOU NEED TO GO HOT SPOTS, IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT TO YOUR BAR, YOUR BARN ON YOUR RANCH, WE CAN PUT A LITTLE HOTSPOT THAT WORKS OFF CELLULAR DATA AND THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

AND ALSO WE HAVE A CREDIT POINT BACKUP UNIT ON THE ROOF OF THIS BUILDING.

WE HAVE ONE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WHAT THAT DOES IS IT TAKES DEFENSE, UH, AT T AND VERIZON THAT GOES BETWEEN THE TWO.

SO WORST SCENARIO, IF WE ARE COMPLETELY DOWN, WE CAN STILL GET DATA, WE CAN REROUTE THROUGH THAT CRADLE POINT AND THOSE WILL CARDS WILL COME OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT AND THE ONES OVER SL COME OUT THAT ACCOUNT.

AND ANY THE CASE WHERE A COUNTY BAR OR BUILDING IS TOTALLY OUT, WE CAN JUST DRIVE ONE OUT THERE AND PLUG IT IN AND BRING IT BACK UP.

OKAY.

SO TELL ME WHAT ALL KINDS OF THINGS ARE BEING CHARGED FOR THAT.

SIX NINE.

SEVEN .

IT'S MOSTLY, UH, VERIZON.

IT'S VERIZON WIRELESS.

IT HAS, UM, THE WIFI, LIKE YOU SAYING THE HOT SPOTS CARDS.

I MEAN IT'S A LOT IS CHARGED TO THE, TO THE, SO GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THE REST IS CHARGED TO OUR BUDGET.

SO THE SO HAS A LINE ITEM FOR THIS AS WELL.

IT'S ALL PUT TO THE SAME LINE ITEM, BUT WE BREAK IT UP SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH WAS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND HOW MUCH WAS THE OTHER OFFICES.

SO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS? RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING THE BILL RUNS AROUND $4,600 A MONTH.

AND SO WE'RE SHOWING, WE'VE SPENT, SEE I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE DROPPING BECAUSE WE ALL THESE PHONES AND UH, BUT THROUGH OCTOBER, I MEAN THROUGH MARCH 31ST WE'VE SPENT 22 1 7 6.

SO WHERE ARE WE NOW? UH, THE STIPEND SHOULD HAVE CLEANED THAT.

WE'RE AT 30 1002.

60 31.

AND WE GOT, AND THAT'S UP TO DATE I THINK PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH.

SO.

YES SIR.

THOSE CHECKS WERE WRITTEN IN IN MAY.

THAT'S THE CURRENT PRICE.

SO WE GOT READY OF FOUR MONTHS OR YEAH, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER FOUR MONTHS TO YEAH, THESE WERE MAY BILLS THAT WE JUST PAID.

ALRIGHT.

HOW DID WE KNOW IF THOSE LINES HAVE BEEN DROPPED OR NOT? OR WHENEVER? GLORIA'S CONSTANTLY, IF WE WILL DO IS IF WE SUSPECT THAT SHE'LL GO DOWN AND CALL THEM AND PUT 'EM IN, UH, THE SUSPENSION UNTIL, BECAUSE WE'LL CHECK, SHE'LL CHECK THE TITLE ON IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ID SHE'LL IF WE TURNED IN A LOT OF COUNTY CELL PHONES, WE SURE WE'RE STILL NOT BE A BILL FOR THOSE CELL PHONES.

WE TURNED BUNCH OF IN THE BILL SHOULD BE ON.

BUT THAT'S NOT ON VERIZON.

THAT'S THAT ON AT&T.

OKAY.

THAT WAS AT T.

ALRIGHT.

VERIZON.

OKAY.

SO THE MOST, I MEAN LOOKING AT THIS YEAR, YOU'RE ALREADY GONNA GO OVER BUDGET IN ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AND WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT FIVE MORE BILLINGS TO 'CAUSE THE BILL WE PAID IN OCTOBER IS GONNA BE DATED BACK SEPTEMBER EPTEMBER.

SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR REDUCTION IN THAT.

YEAH, I WE'RE WRONG THAT I THOUGHT BECAUSE WE LIKE THE SAID SINCE WE TURNED BACK ALL THOSE, IT WOULD'VE MADE SENSE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND CHECK.

MAYBE COMPARE BILL.

WE'LL LOOK AND WE'LL JUST TAKE EACH ONE OF THOSE ALL.

WELL IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU CAN'T GET SOMEBODY TO MAN UP AND TELL YOU HAS A PHONE AND WHO DOESN'T, YOU JUST DISCONNECTED.

YOU'LL FIND OUT QUICK AND IN A HURRY.

YES, YOU WILL.

THEY'LL BE SPRING GOOD.

I HAD SOMETHING BACK UP.

ONE ON THE CAMERAS UPGRADES AND BREAK FIX.

BOBBY HAD REQUESTED 30,000 IN HIS BUDGET FOR THAT ALREADY.

FORGOT THAT IT END UP DOLLAR.

YEAH, WHATEVER WE, HOWEVER WE FIND, WHATEVER WE WIND UP WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

ELECTION SOFTWARE.

UH, 6 9 7 1 ALSO, EXCUSE ME.

UH, THE, WE BUDGETED 38,000.

WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW WE HAD A DEMO IN HERE THE OTHER DAY AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS NO, THIS IS EC, EC IS FOR THE VOTER REGISTRAR SOFTWARE.

THIS IS NOT THE .

THIS WOULD BE LIKE A FILL IN.

WE WE DEPLOY THE LAPTOPS DURING THE ELECTION CYCLE.

YEAH.

THIS IS HOW WE KEEP TRACK OF REGISTER VOTERS IF THEY VOTED THAT THEY VOTED FUZZY ON THAT

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FORM VERSION.

SO WE USED TO, WHAT I DO, WHAT I DO ON THESE, I GIVE A VENDOR, I ACTUALLY HAVE THE EXACT EXACT QUOTE.

SO THE VOTE FOR EC, IT'S NOT A GUESS.

IT'S NOT A GUESS, BUT I REACH OUT TO FOLKS AND I HAD EXACT QUOTE, BUT I HAVE, DO WE NEED TO DO ANY KIND OF A PROCUREMENT ON THAT? WE JUST, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOFTWARE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANYTHING.

BUT THAT WAS AS OF MARCH IN MAY WE PAID 37,002 50.

SO THAT HAS BEEN PAID WAS LIKE THE DIRECT QUOTE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

IS THAT, DOES THAT GO THROUGH? WHAT DO WE GO, HOW DO WE, IS THAT A SOLE SOURCE ISSUE OR SHOULD IT GO THROUGH PERFECT.

BID IT OUT OR WHAT WHAT? WELL WE'RE, WE'RE TIED THAT ENOUGH.

NOW IF WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT A PHONE SYSTEM.

WE WANT TO GO OUT.

IF OUR VOTER FOLKS WANNA GO OUT AND LOOK FOR NEW SOFTWARE.

IF THEY'RE NOT HAPPY, WE SURE CAN ENTERTAIN MORE HELP.

BUT I'VE NOT HEARD THEM THAT THEY WERE DISSATISFIED WITH IT.

THEY'VE HAD FOR MANY YEARS.

I JUST, SOMETIMES WE STAY WITH THE SAME VENDOR.

THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST FREE BUMPING.

THEY JUST KEEP ADDING ON THAT THEY HAVE HERE FOR 30 YEARS.

I CHANGED NOTHING.

I MEAN WE COULD OBVIOUSLY, UH, LOOK AT SOME IF, IF NOTHING ELSE, LIKE I SAID, IF THEY, THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN CHANGING, WE COULD STILL GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE TO GET SOME QUOTES JUST TO, IT'S BELOW 50,000, IT'S BELOW 50,000.

SO IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HURT IT AND IT MIGHT NOT BE WORTH THE CHANGE.

BUT IT MIGHT KEEP, BUT IT MIGHT KEEP THESE GUYS HONEST.

AND NOT TO SAY THAT, THAT THAT MAY NOT BE JUST A LEGITIMATE INCREASE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE INCREMENTS ARE JUST RIDICULOUS ON THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

NO, IT'S REALLY GONE UP FOR A YEAR.

2015.

20 15 85.

PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S WE'RE A LOT LESS.

WE THEY WANNA FIND OUT RUSSIAN ARE HACKING INTO THAT COULD BE ARE COMING.

OKAY, WELL LET'S WORK THROUGH THAT.

I DON'T AT LEAST, LIKE I SAID, JUST GET 'EM TO TURN IN SOME QUOTES WHERE WE HAVE SOME UM, BACKUP DOCUMENTATION.

SO WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE GOT FROM OTHER VENDORS AS WELL.

NO.

OKAY.

Y'ALL KIND OF WORK ON THAT AND IF IT'S WORKING, WE DON'T WANT MESS UP SOMETHING.

IT AIN'T COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS.

PROBABLY NOT WORTH THINGS CHANGE.

BUT TAX ASSESSOR SOFTWARE, UH, WOULD YOU EXPECT ANYTHING ON THAT GEORGE? UM, NOTHING ALL WAY ACROSS.

I GUESS HE TOOK DOWN IT'S 6 97 2.

I THINK THAT WOULD, WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANYTHING SINCE 20.

NO, THAT QUESTION THAT'D BE PUT BACK INTO THE TAX ASSESS TAX ASSESSMENT.

OKAY.

THAT'S THAT, THAT'S WHY I, LET'S REMEMBER THAT.

NO, THE TAX ASSESSOR SOFTWARE THAT IS PRIOR TO ACT BEFORE I MOVE TO ACT.

THE POSTED PRODUCT WE'RE USING NOW FOR THAT IS DOWN A LINE.

6, 9, 7 8 NEW SOFTWARE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING.

AND WHO, WHO IS THAT WITH? DID THIS VENDOR? UM, THEY ARE PART OF THE LANDMARK LAW FIRM.

OKAY.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TAX SOFTWARE, WHICH WE WENT TO DURING ONE, THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, I GUESS IT WAS THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S THE ONE WE WENT OUT TO BID FOR, HAD THE WORKSHOPS AND THE COMMITTEE.

AND WE DON'T WANNA MESS UP SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN ESPECIALLY RIGHT BEFORE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT NEW SOFTWARE.

YEAH.

THOSE ARE WHOLE LOT MORE BESS AND WHISTLE THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

OKAY.

UH, FINANCIAL SOFTWARES.

TW UH, KAREN, THAT IS THEIR EXACT QUOTE.

AND I KNOW WE HAD TRAINING IN THERE BEFORE.

I, I NEED TO GET WITH YOU.

WELL IF YOU LOOK AT PRIOR YEARS WE'VE HAD ISSUES LIKE IF THEY HAVE A PAYROLL ISSUE OR WE HAVE AN UPDATE, THEY CHARGE US TO GO IN THERE AND DO ANY KIND OF STUFF.

SO BACK FOR YOU.

SO WE NEED TO GO BACK UP AND I ALWAYS USE THAT MONEY, LIKE IF SHE NEEDED TRAINING, I'VE GOT EXTRA TO GET HER TRAINING ON S ST W AND HELP WITH THE NO TIME AND STUFF.

I ALWAYS USE THAT FOR HELPING

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FOR THE FINANCIAL FOR.

SO YOU'RE COMFORTABLE LEAVING THAT THE SAME THEN? YES, SIR.

40,000.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THE AUTOMATED TIMEKEEPING, PAYROLL, HOW, HOW'S THAT WORKING? THAT'S THE NODE TIME.

THAT'S OVERTIME.

OKAY.

WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH YOUR, YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE GOT THAT.

UH, WELL WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THIS CONVERSATION YESTERDAY.

UM, I THINK IT'S, I MEAN I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT TRACKS THE TIME, LIKE TIME, COMP TIME AND, AND VACATION TIME AND ALL THAT THE WAY IT DOES.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT TOOL.

I JUST THINK IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME.

WE CAN GO OUT AND EXPLORE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES I'VE SEEN.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT FOR AN ISSUE WITH IT BECAUSE I LIKE IT BECAUSE IT FLOWS INTO S ST W YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME, SO I'M TELLING YOU.

THAT'S EXACTLY, AND THERE'S, AND THAT'S JUST IT.

IF YOU CAN'T FIND SOMETHING THAT INTEGRATES WELL, THEN YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

BUT THAT, AND WE KIND OF RELY ON OVERTIME FOR THOSE COMPENSATED ABSENCES.

YEAH.

IT GIVES US THE REPORT THAT WE USED TO HAVE TO DO ON A SPREADSHEET TO GIVE THE COMPENSATED ABSENCES CALCULATION.

IT AUTOMATICALLY, WE'LL JUST PRINT THAT REPORT, YOUR HONOR.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE ADDED WHAT AGO, LET'S SEE, WE DIDN'T HAVE, IT WAS AN IT COMMITTEE AND I THINK, UH, THE PRIOR COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TOO WAS ON THERE AND HE ALREADY EMPLOYED.

UH, YES.

LLOYD, ME, JACK, GEORGE, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ELSE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

UH, I THINK LAURA WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE, WEREN'T SHE? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

I THOUGHT SO SHE'S ON ALL THAT COMMITTEE.

YES, SHE'S ON ALL OF THEM.

BUT, UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THE PAYROLL WAS TAKING TOO LONG.

UH, TIME SHEETS WERE BEING CHANGED WITHOUT AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THOSE TIME SHEETS.

RIGHT.

IT WAS NOT ALL PAPER.

I MEAN IT WAS ALL PAPER.

IT WAS THE HONOR SYSTEM.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

IT WAS THE HONOR SYSTEM, WHICH PEOPLE NEED STILL CHEAT ON THEIR TIME STILL, YOU KNOW, BUT IT WAS MORE OF A RECORD KEEPING IDEA.

AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAD BROUGHT TO US WAS ANOTHER NAME OF ANOTHER COMPANY THAT HE WORKED FOR.

AND WE WERE ALL FOR IT.

AND THEN AS WE WENT THROUGH THE CONVERSION AND ACTUALLY DOING IT, IT CHANGED TO NO TIME.

BUT, UM, DAVID JOHNSON, THAT OWNED STW WAS THE ONE WHEN I CALLED AND SAID WHAT TIME OR TIME KEEPING SOFTWARE WOULD WORK WITH STW.

HE HAD SAID, WELL CALL THIS GENTLEMAN.

HE, HE'S IN HOUSTON.

HE SAID, I JUST HAD HEARD OF HIM BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE USED HIM AND CHECK AND SEE.

AND HE CAME DOWN AND TALKED TO US AND GAVE US SOME REAL NICE BROCHURES AND PROMISED THE MOON.

AND THEN WHEN WE GOT WITH THE OTHER COMPANY, WE MADE 'EM KEEP THAT PROMISE DID.

SO IS IT WORKING OKAY? YEAH, IT, IT WORKS GREAT.

SHE JUST NEEDS THE TRAINING.

THAT'S THE ONE I SPOKE ABOUT AND I SAID 500 AN HOUR.

IT'S 150 AN HOUR.

OKAY.

AND I WAS GOING TO USE SOME OF MY FINANCIAL SOFTWARE MONEY TO GET .

HE CAN DO IT FOR HUNDREDS TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR.

SO HE CHEAP.

HE WILL BE A KEEPER.

HE'S CHEAP.

UM, I MEAN, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, IT'S JUST I'VE USED OTHER PRODUCTS THAT ARE SIMILAR.

THEY'RE MORE USER FRIENDLY THAN IT IS.

BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I, I'VE USED KRONOS IN THE PAST, BUT I BOTH USE A DP KRONOS.

UM, IT'S NOT AN HR.

WE LOOKED AT KRONOS, BUT IT WAS CRAZY.

WE LOOKED AT KRONOS, DIDN'T COUNTY USES IT BECAUSE COUNTY'S RICH.

WE WEREN'T .

BUT PRICE WAS AN ISSUE THEN.

OH, YES, SIR.

IT'S REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE.

WELL, MAYBE WHEN YOU GET THE TRAINING AND, YEAH, SURE.

THAT'LL HELP A LOT.

HELP A LOT.

SO THAT'LL BE GOOD.

I DON'T, IT'S USUALLY I CAN PICK THEM UP WITHOUT THE TRAINING.

YEAH.

ON THIS ONE.

SO THE PRICE WE BUDGETED IS 32,000 AND WE PAID 31 3 7 2.

IS THAT ABOUT, THAT'S A QUOTE WE RECEIVED FROM THEM.

32 FORECAST.

OF COURSE, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR EMPLOYEE.

IT CAN CALL THAT.

YEAH.

IT, THE MORE EMPLOYEES YOU, YOU ADD IF THEY CHARGE US PER EMPLOYEE, BUT 32,000 SHOULD TAKE CARE OF.

THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE LISTED THERE.

YEAH.

WE'VE KIND OF BEEN UNDER THAT RANGE.

PRIOR HISTORY.

WELL, UH, WELL THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY REQUESTED 30,900.

YEAH.

BUT, AND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER.

YEAH.

WE'RE THE 32 CHANGES, IF ANYWHERE THEY 32,000, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT THEY QUOTED YOU? YEAH.

UH, WE REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET A QUOTE.

GOT A WORKSHEET.

IS THAT BASED ON CURRENT USAGE? YEAH, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, UM, THERE'S, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT I, I DID GET A, UH, I ASKED THEM

[01:05:01]

ABOUT THE INVOICE BECAUSE OF THE, THE BREAKDOWN AND THE USERS.

IT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

SO I ASKED ABOUT IT AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

THAT POSSIBLY WE MAY BE PAYING FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T NEED TO BE ON IT.

MAYBE SOME EXTRA USERS.

SO I'M GONNA WORK ON THAT.

OKAY.

BREAK NOW.

IS THAT MAYBE KIND OF WORK WITH KAREN? WELL, I'LL JUST BASICALLY GO THROUGH AND WHEN I FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUN A REPORT OF THE USER TO FIND OUT WHO'S STILL HERE AND WHO'S NOT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SOME PEOPLE HAVE, SOME MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DELETED, SOME MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DELETED.

SO THAT'S PART OF IT.

PART TWO IS IF SOMEBODY WAS CHANGED INTO A SUPERVISORY POSITION, IF THEY APPROVED IT, MAKE A DIFFERENCE TOO.

YEAH.

IT'S THE SAME COST, BUT THEY HAVE TWO USER ACCOUNTS WHERE THEY NEED ONE.

OKAY.

WELL, QUICK QUESTION FOR, I DON'T NEED TO TAKE A BREAK OVER EVERYBODY'S SQUARING DOWN HERE.

SO LET'S TAKE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE PHONE COMMITTEE.

NOW THAT IS A PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT LISAS ON.

OKAY.

LISA, YOU'RE ON THE GUESS HOW LONG DID UP SOME PAPERWORK? WELL, OKAY, HE MIGHT.

THIS IS FOR A, OH, OKAY.

CELL PHONES.

HEY LAURA.

GEORGE WAS JACK.

WE DID IT THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED FOR A PHONE SYSTEM.

YES.

GEORGE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE GO AHEAD AND TALK TO JASMINE.

YOU NEED TO GET BACK TOO.

BUT I DON'T THINK A BOOK TO, SO LOOK AT THAT.

LOOK, YOU SIT RIGHT THERE.

I'M JUDGE WOOD SECOND.

Y'ALL PAYING ATTENTION? NO.

OH, HE IS NOT.

WE GONNA LET YASMA GO AHEAD AND DO HERS SO SHE CAN GET ON BACK OUT TO THE LIBRARY.

AND I KNOW GEORGES NEEDS TO GET BACK TO HIS PLACE TOO.

UH, YASMA, YOU'RE WANTING TO INCREASE YOUR EXTRA HELP BY $2,170.

UM, THAT IS JUST DUE TO THE RETIREMENT WE HAD, WE WERE AFFECTED BY SOME OF THE PART-TIMERS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED CONTRIBUTING TO THE RETIREMENT FUND RETIREMENT.

SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ACROSS THE OTHER DEPARTMENT.

AND LAST YEAR WE RAISED, GAVE THEM A RAISE TO, YOU KNOW, 56 OR SO TO BRING THEM ALL UP TO ABOUT $9 AN HOUR.

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO COME BACK AND TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEM.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M INCREASING IT BY THAT 9.4 TO PERCENT.

RIGHT.

IS THAT CORRECT, LORI? FOR NEXT YEAR SO THAT THEY WON'T SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR PAYCHECKS IF THEY HAVE TO START FROM TWO THREE TO THEIR RETIREMENT BUDGET, JUST TO BALANCE IT OUT SO THEIR PAY, THEIR TAKE ON PAY WILL BE THE SAME AND THEY'LL JUST, SO THAT'S THAT INCREASE ON THERE.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YES, I THINK THAT'S VERY, YEAH.

AND THEN ON THE RETIREMENT, I MEAN ON THE EXTRA HELP YOU, THE RETIREMENT WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT BELOW THAT.

YES.

SO BOTH OF THOSE WERE INCREASED BY THE 9.42% AND THE, THE RETIREMENT SHOULD ALREADY BE CALCULATED CORRECTLY BECAUSE WE, WHENEVER WE HAVE THAT SPREADSHEET, WE HAVE THAT AMOUNT.

SO THAT, THAT WAS ALREADY BEING CALCULATED CORRECTLY.

AS FAR AS THE BUDGET, IT IS JUST THAT IT WASN'T ACTUAL, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING COMING OUT OF IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT MAY NOT BE THE WE MAY NOT NEED THAT.

NO.

WELL, THE SEVEN SIX IS WHAT COMES OUT OF THEIR CHECK.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THE INCREASE TO THEM WOULD BE 7%.

THE COST TO THE COUNTY IS 9.42% AND IT'S GOING UP TO NINE POINT.

THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE RATE FOR 20 18, 9 0.42.

CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

NO, THE RETURNING RATE WAS 9.61.

WHEN W THIS PAST, UM, IF YOU TAKE BOTH RETIREMENT RATES INTO ACCOUNT, YEAH, IT WAS NOT, IT WENT UP A LITTLE BIT.

IT DID GO UP.

NOT, NOT SEVEN.

SEE, THE WAY WE BUDGET FOR IT, JUDGE, ON THE SPREAD, THE BIG

[01:10:01]

SPREADSHEET, THE FIRST THREE MONTHS ARE AT THE OLD RATE.

'CAUSE THEIR CALENDAR YEAR AND WE'RE FISCAL.

RIGHT.

SO THEN WE CALCULATE THE NEXT NINE MONTHS, STARTING JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER AT A NEW RATE.

SO IT'S A DOUBLE CALCULATION.

OKAY.

SO IT'S A 1221 STATE.

OKAY.

AND THEN ON COMMUNICATIONS, YOU'RE ASKING FOR BIT OF AN INCREASE THERE AT 1260 THAT YEAH, WE, WE, UM, HAD THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY GRANT FOR THE AGENCY AT THE VERY BOTTOM, WHICH WAS FOR 31,000, OVER $31,000, WHICH WE USED TO REPLACE OUR COMPUTERS.

AND GEORGE AND HIS STAFF CAME OVER AND REPLACED ALL OF OUR COMPUTERS.

AND WE ALSO ACQUIRED LAPTOPS AND PRINTERS.

AND WE ALSO DID A NEW, UH, INTERNET SERVICE.

AND THAT THE GRANT HAS COVERED THAT FOR THIS YEAR.

SO WE WILL PUT THAT A HUNDRED, I THINK IT'S $105 A MONTH.

SO IT HAS INCREASED OUR SPEED.

WE'RE ABLE TO LET ALL PEOPLE USING THE WIRELESS AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE NETWORK COMPUTER.

SO IT'S GOING GOOD.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.

I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE REQUEST.

SO YES.

WELL, THAT'S, UH, JUDGE WOOD ALSO.

UM, THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS 175,000 TO THE LIBRARY FUND BECAUSE IT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE FUND.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE FUND THIS STUFF.

THIS IS WHERE WE COVER THE SALARIES AND THE BOOKS AND THINGS.

SHE DOES HAVE A LITTLE FUND THAT GETS THE DONATIONS AND THE MEMORIALS AND SHE USUALLY SPENDS THAT FOR BOOKS AND STUFF.

AND YOUR FRIENDS GROUP I KNOW, YES.

QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

YES.

THEY, THEY PROBABLY FUND ABOUT 99% OF ALL OF OUR PROGRAMMING.

THEY SPEND ABOUT $10,000 A YEAR, UM, ON SUMMER PROGRAMMING, ALL THE PROGRAM THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR THE KIDS.

AND THEN THE ADULT PROGRAMMING THAT WE INDICATED LAST YEAR AND ALSO OUR TEAM.

SO YEAH.

SO THEY THEY DO A LOT OF HARD WORK.

THEY, THEY'RE REALLY GOOD.

SO THEY, DO YOU PROVIDE US WITH A LIBRARY PARTICIPATION? UH, OR COULD YOU I CAN AND START DOING THAT LIKE EVERY MONTH OR THREE MONTHS, WHATEVER QUARTER WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD ENOUGH.

JUST WHATEVER WORKS SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE, AS YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE NEED TO ASK THE OTHER LIBRARIES TO DO THE SAME THING, EVEN THOUGH YOU GET, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE THAN THEY DO AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

I KNOW YOU SIGN OFF ON OUR ANNUAL REPORTS THAT WE DO EVERY FOR THE STATE BECAUSE OF THOSE STATUTE, THE REGULATIONS.

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT USAGE AND YES, I KNOW WHEN I'M IN THERE, THE COMPUTERS ARE BUSY.

YES, THEY ARE VERY BUSY.

DID YOU HAVE A SATELLITE THAT FOR YEARS WE PROVIDED INTERNET SERVICE TO THAT HER BUILDING APPRAISAL AND CHILDREN'S SHELTER.

KENNEDY PRODUCT, THE OLD JAIL TOWER.

AND IT SAID A KNOWN OUT A WHILE BACK, WE DECOMMISSIONING ALL THAT.

IT'S END OF LIFE, BUT IT'S NOT WORTH PUTTING THE MONEY INTO ANYMORE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED AT ONE TIME.

IT WENT THROUGH THE SCHOOL AND WE BUILT THE MEMORIAL.

THE, UM, CUT THE LINE.

THEY CUT THE LINE.

SO THEN I THINK GEORGE CAME OVER THEN 10 USED TO DO IT.

YES.

SO THAT WAS BEFORE I STARTED.

YES.

SO THIS WEBB MM-HMM .

OKAY.

YES.

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

SO THAT'S THE, THAT IS THE INCREASE ON THE COMMUNICATION SIGN.

UM, AND THEN WE DROP DOWN TO THE TRAINING EDUCATION.

THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY HAS A BIG CONFERENCE EVERY YEAR AND THEY ROTATE BETWEEN DALLAS, HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO, AND SOMETIMES AUSTIN FOR, AND THIS, I USUALLY GO EVERY YEAR.

THE STATE REQUIRES THAT.

I DO 20 HOURS OF IN CONTINUING, CONTINUING PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION TO KEEP THE LIBRARY CERTIFIED AND ALSO TO, UM, GO BACK AND TRAIN THE STAFF.

NEXT YEAR IN 2018 WILL BE BACK IN DALLAS.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR MY STAFF AND I HAVE, UH, SIX ON STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND AT LEAST ONE DAY.

UM, THEY HAVE CLASSES FOR, UM, NOT ONLY THE LIBRARIES, BUT THE SUPPORT STAFF AS WELL.

AND USUALLY GREAT SPEAKERS COME IN.

USUALLY WE ALWAYS GET OUR BOOK OFFER LUNCH, USUALLY HAVE OUR BOOK OFFER LUNCH.

AND WE USUALLY ARE ABLE TO GET OUR THAT STUFF AUTHOR FROM THERE AS WELL TOO.

BUT THAT'S THE TWO 50 FOR THE STAFF TO, THAT COVERS THE REGISTRATION.

WON'T EVEN HAVE TRAINING NOW.

WORK.

SO, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M ASKING FOR IN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S A GOOD DEAL.

EVERYBODY GOOD TO GO? 1221 OR GO, PARDON ME? $1,221.

IT STAY OR GO RETURN.

IT DOESN'T NEED, DON'T NEED IT.

THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT BECAUSE WE INCLUDED, IT JUST HADN'T BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE, THE EMPLOYEES PORTION.

SO THEY WEREN'T EVER ON THE RETIREMENT REPORT TO

[01:15:01]

BE SENT IN TO THESE TC YAMA.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UHHUH ON YOUR LIBRARY GRANT, UM, IS IT STILL THE SAME AMOUNT? NO, THAT WILL END AND UM, WE WON'T GET THAT.

THAT WAS JUST BE ZERO THERE.

SO THAT WILL BE ZERO THERE.

PARDON ME.

WHAT WILL WE GET TO USE THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY FOR, FOR THE GRANT? WE, WE DO HAVE TO SPEND I THINK BY THE END OF AUGUST.

UM, AND I'LL GET WITH GEORGIA GOING TO SEE WHAT ELSE.

SO MAYBE SOME MAYBE PRINTED MORE PRINTERS AND POSSIBLY SOME SCANNERS OR SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC.

COMPUTERS IS, YOU LOSE IT.

YOU GOT, YEAH, YOU GOT SIX AND EIGHT.

SO I SAY WE GOT ALL THE COMPUTERS AND THE THINGS THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO AS PART OF THE GRANT.

UM, THERE IS SOME RESUME SOFTWARE THAT ARE LOOKING AT PURCHASING FOR THOSE TO THAT'D BE GOOD.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

TEXAS WORKFORCE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

APPRECIATE YOU DOING WHAT YOU DO.

YOU'RE ALWAYS STEADY AND YOU KEEP THE MEETING ROOM, WHICH STAYS VERY BUSY.

YES IT DOES.

YES.

YOU ALWAYS ARE HELPFUL WITH THAT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU APPRECIATE IT.

YOU GEORGE.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GO BACK TO GEORGE NOW, UH, GEORGE THINKS FOR STANDING BY AND I THINK WE WERE DOWN TO THE FIRE PROGRAMS. UH, THAT'S THE NEW PRODUCT THAT, UH, MAN MORE SUITED HIS DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S THE INCURRING COST OF THAT TWO MEETINGS AGO.

WERE YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT HE TALKING ABOUT.

I JUST, I HE WAS LOOKING AT ME THAT I DON'T GO TO THE COURT MEETINGS.

I WOULDN'T OKAY, YOU'RE SAYING IT SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE FIRE MARSH? NO, THIS, THIS IS THE SOFTWARE.

WHAT WE DID IS WE, UM, THE PRODUCT WE HAD WASN'T GOOD FOR INVESTIGATORS.

I REMEMBER HAVING, SO WE, WE WORK OUT A, A MODULAR, IT'S MULTIPLE MODULARS.

IT'S A NEW PRODUCT AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE, UM, THE MONEY LEFT FROM THIS YEAR AND BEGIN IT AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS WE GET, WE GOT A FINAL, WE HAVE CHANGE TO THE CONTRACT, IT'S APPROVED BY THE VA BACK OVER, WE GO OUT THAT AND RECURRING COSTS IS AT 50%, 53 INVESTIGATING.

OKAY.

EVERYBODY GOT THAT? OKAY.

THAT WILL BE A HELP TO, UH, FIRE MARSHAL AND THERE INVESTIGATION STUFF.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS DE MOTION WIRELESS PS LAW AND FIRE.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS ALL THE PATROL VEHICLES, SHERIFF'S OFFICE CONSTABLES, FIRE VEHICLES AND THAT'S HOW THEY COMMUNICATE.

IT'S A MOBILITY PS.

SO THAT MEANS THEY CAN BE ATTRACTED, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DOES IS THEY CAN ACCESS ALL OUR RESOURCES IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE HOUSED.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ELC, THEY CAN THEY RID FROM THE CAR WITH IT'S A MOBILITY.

WE'VE HAD THAT SINCE 2003, 2004.

OKAY.

AND THIS GOING UP A LITTLE BIT, LOOKS LIKE 2 80, 6 75.

MM-HMM.

I HAVE AN EXACT, OKAY.

UH, BRUCE, REMIND ME, HAVE Y'ALL, Y'ALL EVER WATCHED THAT A AND E SHOW LIVE POLICE OR SO BRIEF? YES.

I GUESS WE'RE NOT ON THERE.

I GUESS IT NOT ON THERE.

GET A SHOW GOING, SHOW GOING, GET A SHOW GOING.

I DIDN'T HEAR SHOW GOING.

OH WELL WE HAD ENOUGH.

6 7 7 WHAT WE CRIME FROM SOUTHERN SOFTWARE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WEBSITE.

AND THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE THAT DOESN'T, ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THAT'S STATED BY THE SAME BUT LIKE, UH, TAX ASSESSOR DO YOU TAX SOFTWARE? SO THIS IS ACT, THIS IS THE PRODUCT WE HAVE FROM IT'S HOSTED, WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE EVENT A DISASTER, THIS BUILDING BLOWS UP.

WE CAN COLLECT TAXES.

SO IT'S ALWAYS THERE.

ALRIGHT.

THE E-FILING THING THAT'S, UH, IN THE PAST, UH, THE GIS LICENSE, THAT'S OUR, AS WE LICENSING, UM, LICENSING

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TRAINING AND OTHER PRODUCTS THAT DAVE USES, UH, FOR SCANNER, WE'RE GONNA TAKE SOME OF THE MONEY FROM THIS YEAR AND BUY LICENSE FOR THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT THREE WITH THE PRODUCTS HE'S USING, THEY NEEDS SOME LICENSES.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE 15 FOR THAT AND BUDGET THAT, NOT THIS.

OKAY.

EVERYBODY GRASP THAT? YEAH.

HE HAS MAPPING FUNCTIONALITY WITH THE PUBLIC.

UH, TYLER TICKET RIDER.

TICKET RIDER SHOULD SUPPORT ALL THE TIRE, ALL THE TYLER COMPONENTS ARE IN OUR ANNUAL QUOTE AT THE BOTTOM.

OKAY.

ARE THOSE UP? ARE, IS EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH THEM? ARE THEY ALL WORKING? I YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT USE THEM.

LIKE I TALKED TO SHAUNA THE OTHER DAY.

IN FACT, WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT THIS LINE SOFTWARE.

OKAY.

JUST HADN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING.

TRY TO KEEP FROM YOU JUDGE.

GOOD.

UH, NIMS DAMAGE ASSESSMENT, UH, THAT'S, UH, FOR STEVE.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE SOFTWARE THAT HE USES.

MICROSOFT OFFICE 365.

RECALL ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WE HOUSED INTERNAL MAIL SERVERS.

AND SO WE SEE JUST MORE SEATS IS COMPLIANT.

WE COULD BE MORE SECURE AND BETTER.

WE PUSH IT ALL TO THE CLOUD IS HOSTED BY MICROSOFT.

UH, SO WE HAVE EXCHANGE ONLINE AND WE ALSO HAVE THE OFFICE 365.

WE MAY CHANGE THAT BECAUSE PART OF THE E-DISCOVERY SOLUTION WE'RE WORKING ON FOR THE VA IS MICHAEL MORAK REQUIRES, WELL I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW IF YOU, BACK IN THE DAY, IF YOU HAD A BWI, THE DEFENSE SAYS I WANT THE CASE FILE AND I WANT THE LAB REPORT NOW BECAUSE OF MICHAEL MORAK AND SAY I WANT IT ALL.

SO IF THE DEPUTY GOES OUT THERE AND TAKES 2000 PICTURES OF THE CAT, WE GOTTA GIVE HIM THE 2000 PICTURES THAT HAVE, RIGHT? SO IT'S REALLY BURDENSOME FOR THE VA.

SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A PRODUCT, WE'RE GONNA DO A TEST RUN UP TO PUSH AND ENCRYPT THE DATA FOR THESE FOLKS TO COME AND GET.

AND THE E-FILING DISCOVERY SOFTWARE, WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES US AN AUDIT TRAIL AND NOTIFICATIONS.

WE NOTIFY AND LET US KNOW.

THE DEFENSE SAW OUR, OUR STATEMENT THAT IS OUT THERE IS THAT THEY GOT IT.

SO THAT MAY AFFECT THIS LINE ITEM BECAUSE WE MAY INCREASE OUR, UH, FULL OFFICE 365 LICENSES BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA USE SHAREPOINT AND ONEDRIVE PRODUCT.

OKAY.

SO IT MAY NEED TO GO UP, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE AN AMOUNT.

IT MAY, IT MAY, BUT THE WAY MICROSOFT WORKS, WE CAN ACTUALLY PUSH THAT INTO THE, THE NEXT YEAR.

THE NEXT YEAR.

AND WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE DO IS WE CAN ACTUALLY ORDER THROUGH OUR VOLUME LICENSE AGREEMENT THROUGH MICROSOFT AND WHAT THEY'LL DO IN ALMOST A YEAR FROM NOW.

'CAUSE THEY'LL COME TO US AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU GOT.

YOU ALWAYS YEAH, I DON'T LIKE A CAR.

BUY CAR.

THEY GIVE IT TO YOU ON THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

THEY DON'T MAKE YOU PAY IT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

PAY IT NEXT FREE.

OKAY.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS THIS, THE JOHNNY WOOD, UH, ITEM, THE MY TAIL PHONE SYSTEM.

THAT, THAT IS ACTUALLY THERE TWICE.

GALA PAYS THAT OUT.

A TEN SIX NINE, TWO SIX NINE SIX FIFTY HUNDRED.

SO I THOUGHT WE HAD RESOLVED THAT.

SO I JUST TOOK THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, PENDING FURTHER.

OKAY.

SO IS THAT BRAD? I MEAN, WHAT HE, IS IT IN THE BUDGET PLAN? IT COMES OUT OF COUNTY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS TEN SIX NINE SIX FIFTY TWO IS WHAT WE, AND OF COURSE THAT'LL ALL CHANGE IF WE FORKLIFT ALL OUR PHONE SYSTEM BE ABOUT 200.

WE, UH, WERE, DID DID WE EVER HAVE ANY KIND OF CONTRACT WITH JOHNNY WOOD? WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE COMPANY? I UH, IT'S CHANGED.

IT'S NOW FOUR THREE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

FOUR THREE.

YES.

YEAH, WE'VE GOT, UH, 27,500 BUDGETED AND COUNTY COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. WE'VE HAD THAT IN THERE FOR A FEW YEARS.

AND THAT EXACT AMOUNT IS WHAT WE AS WELL.

SO WHAT ARE WE PAYING HIM THEN? THAT 1919.

THAT'S WHY IT, SO I'M SAYS IT CAME OUT.

I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE, WHERE IT SHOULD BE IT, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS.

RIGHT.

UNTIL WE GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHO'S GONNA GIVE THE VOTES.

SO I WOULD JUST TAKE THAT UP AND LEAVE IT THERE.

MODIFY THAT ONCE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND LEAVE IT IN WHERE WE, SO WE'LL JUST TAKE THIS 19,000 NOW.

SO ACTUALLY IT WAS IN THERE TWICE.

YES.

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DO WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH HIM OR WE DO NOT.

YOU DID.

IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WHAT ALL IS THIS? BUT HE JUST ASK ON THAT ON THE COMMITTEE.

SO HE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BID, BUT NOT SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO? NO, UH, WHAT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, AS I'VE TOLD YOU, I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE INVOICES MM-HMM .

AND UH, ONE OF 'EM CAME THROUGH THE OTHER DAY AND I KNOW I THINK YOU'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT ONE OF 'EM CAME THROUGH THE OTHER DAY WHEN THE PHONES WENT DOWN.

THAT'S THE, UH, TERRELL SUB COURTHOUSE.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, HE BILLED US FOR SEVENTH.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE.

AND I THINK YOU'RE CHECKING, I'VE ASKED HIM TO SUBMIT THAT WITH AN EXPLANATION.

YEAH.

AND UH, BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE INVOICE THAT HE'S DONE DURING THE PAST YEAR, UH, I DUNNO, IT APPEARS HE CHARGES US PRETTY HEAVILY ON SOME THINGS, LIKE WHEN WE MOVED PHONES FROM DOWNSTAIRS TO UP HERE AND, OR MAYBE ONLY WITH HIS PHONES OR WHAT, WHAT IT WAS.

BUT I LIKE 3,500 SO IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO DO THAT HOUSE.

YEAH, YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO I MEAN THAT WILL CUT OUT.

I THINK WE PAID HIM HOW MUCH, UH, THIS YEAR IN ADDITION TO THE 19,000.

I DIDN'T PULL THAT.

DOES HE STRICTLY DO PROGRAMMING? IS THAT THE, IS THAT LIKE WHEN WE WENT TO THE EOC, HE TRANSFERRED THE LINES OVER THERE.

YEAH, HE CAME OVER THERE AND SET OUR PHONES UP.

UM, YEAH, THERE WERE SOME REROUTING TO BE DONE, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE PROBABLY DOES.

NOT REALLY.

A LOT OF THESE INVOICES WERE ACTUALLY PHYSICAL.

I THINK ONE BUILT, WE DID THE UPSTAIRS THAT HAD TO DO, WE CAN PULL, BUT I MEAN IT MAKES SENSE IF WE DO IT LOOKING FOR THAT NUMBER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH WE'VE TAKEN THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

IT'S UNDER CLOSE TO 25,000.

MM-HMM .

JUST KIND OF BY YEAH, LAST TIME I LIVED IT WAS, I MEAN, AND THAT INCLUDES THAT 19,000 THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S JUST ONE ANNUAL.

RIGHT.

AND WHAT THAT DOES, HE WILL NOT CHARGE THIS.

I DIDN'T, WE WE, WE'VE PAID HIM ABOUT 25,000 IN ADDITION TO THE 19.

NO, THAT INCLUDED THE 19TH.

SO ONLY ABOUT ADDITIONAL 6,000 ON TOP OF THAT.

2016 WE PAID HIM $32,333.

2015 WE PAID HIM 62,000 IN ADDITION.

18.

NO, THAT'S ALL OF IT.

COMPLETELY.

OKAY.

SO IT'S WORTH, I THINK EXAMINING AND DETERMINING ON WHAT WE DO IS THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

ALRIGHTY.

BARRACUDA DISASTER RECOVERY.

SO ANY DATA, WE BACK UP ON PREMISE, WE PUSH THE CLOUD SO DISASTER WE CAN RECOVER AND IT WORKS.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OTHER, ANYTIME WE'VE HAD TO RECOVER, WE, SO IF TORNADO TAKES THE BUILDING OUT, WE DON'T HAVE THE PREMISE CLASS HERE, WE CAN GET ALRIGHT.

HAVE THE RUSSIANS BEEN LOOKING AT OUR STUFF? PROBABLY VLADIMIR HIMSELF.

YEAH.

HELL YEAH.

UH, THE BARRACUDA FIREWALL THAT'S GOING UP A LITTLE BIT.

BARDA PRODUCTS, DIAL THAT BACK BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO USE MORE WATCH GUARD FIREWALL PLANTS, REMOTE SITES, WHICH IS THE NEXT ONE.

YES.

AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENT FIREWALL OR YES, YES.

AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DUNNO REALLY WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT WELL WE'RE USING THAT ON, ON A SMALL OP HOME OFFICE SITES.

SO WE HAVE ON TEAR, IN FACT THE LINK THAT GOES FROM BACK TO US, WHICH, CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CAROL, I'D RATHER YOU NOT.

GO AHEAD.

.

I'VE LEARNED, I'VE LEARNED FROM THE PRINCIPAL.

NO, GO AHEAD.

I'M JUST KIDDING.

UM, HAROLD, WE HAD THE ISSUE WITH HAROLD.

WE HAD A, UH, FIBER COVER, A FIBER ISSUE FOR A WEEK.

SO ABOUT, YOU SEE THE END RESULT OF THAT WAS WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THANKS TO OUR COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT THREE THAT REMINDED ME ABOUT A GUY I KNEW YEARS AND YEARS AGO.

.

YEAH, I KNOW.

HE KNEW GOT PLACE.

WE, HE NOW HE HAS OUR, HE'S A LOCAL GUY.

HE HAS A GREAT PRODUCT.

HE'S DOING OUR DATA FOR HIS BARN.

AND WE HAD THAT FIRE ISSUE THERE.

WE HAD AT T BACKUP CIRCUIT, WHICH WASN'T S**T.

MM-HMM.

SO THE FIRST THING I DID, I CALLED TERRY, I SAID, WE'RE GONNA CUT THAT BACK UP AND PUT WHAT, WHAT HE'S GOT.

SO NOW TERRY DAR IS BUILDING HIS BUILDING AND SOME COURTHOUSE.

SO AN ISSUE WITH THE FIBER.

WE HAVE A COMPARABLE BANDWIDTH BACKUP FOR THAT'S YEAH.

THE CITY OF IS USING THE TOO, ALL THEIR

[01:30:01]

STUFF.

SAME THING GUY.

VERY SUCCESSFUL.

HIS DAD WAS ON THE COURT 20 YEARS AGO.

WALLACE, RIGHT GUY RIGHT THERE.

HE NEEDS SOME BOXES.

STAND.

YEAH.

YEAH.

.

UH, SO EVERYBODY'S, I MEAN LIKE WORKING, EVERYBODY'S GOOD TO GO WITH.

OKAY.

UH, COMPUTER REPAIRS.

UH, TELL US EXACTLY.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT EVERYBODY'S COMPUTERS IN A WHOLE LOT WORLD, IT'S NOT JUST COMPUTERS.

IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOSE, UM, THE WIRELESS LINK BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IT IS A GUESS WHEN THERE'S A REPAIR TO BE DONE, IT CAN BE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OR IT CAN BE A SIMULATION COMPUTER.

SO IT SHOULD BE PROBABLY IT REPAIRS, BUT IT CAN APPLY TO ANY UNEXPECTED REPAIR.

SO A DEPARTMENT BUDGETS SO MUCH MONEY FOR WHAT THEY THINK THEY CAN'T FORECAST.

THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

WE TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT ABOUT THAT AMOUNT.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME AMOUNT.

WHERE ARE WE? UH, AS OF THE LATEST OUT OF THE 84,000 WORTH SPENT, 55,000.

SO WE'RE PROBABLY, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.

PROBABLY.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU KIND OF UP, I MEAN IT'S PRETTY ACCURATE FOR WHAT, FOR WHAT WE DO.

AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM, UH, TELL ME ALL ABOUT COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE, UM, THE INTERNET OPERATING SYSTEM DEVICES SUCH AS FIREWALL, CISCO BUDGET WITH SERIOUS NEEDS.

THAT SHOULD BE 250,000 TO REALLY DO A REFRESH ON ALL THE CISCO PRODUCTS.

WE DON'T DO THAT.

WE DO THEM AS WE GO.

UM, WE, WE HAD GOT TO CHANGE OUT THE SWITCHING, PUT IN THE BACK, IN THE JAIL, BACK IN THE PODS.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT CAMERA SYSTEMS NO MATTER WHAT WE PUT IN THERE, UPGRADE ALL THAT.

BASICALLY THAT IS, UH, THOSE THINGS THAT RUN THE CAN.

SO, UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDES SERVERS.

SO WE'RE ALSO, UH, GONNA BE HOSTING MORE THINGS.

WE'RE GONNA SPIN VIRTUAL MACHINES FOR COMMISSION.

NEW PRODUCT.

WE'RE HOSTING, WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH IT TO THE CLOUD AND, AND NOT DO AS MUCH PREMISE, BUT WE CONTINUE TO STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT STILL STUFF WE DO HERE.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ADD, IF YOU GUYS APPROVE IT, UM, THE CONSTABLES OF ADS FOR SOUTHERN SOFTWARE THREE AS A REAL GOOD POINT.

WE MET WITH ALL THEM.

THAT AGAIN REQUIRES SERVERS, SOFTWARE, LICENSING.

SO, SO YEAH, THAT ALL COMES OUTTA THAT WAY.

WHAT WOULD THAT DO FOR THEM? CONSTABLES? SO WHAT THAT'LL DO IS IF I HAVE A RATE OF EXECUTION OR RIP SEQUESTRATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I HAVE MAINTAINS BENEFIT TO AUDITOR AS WELL AS IF I GO OUT AND SEE SOMETHING AND TAKE PHOTOS AND ATTACH IT.

TYPICALLY THEY'LL ATTACH IT TO THE CASE.

BUT THE OTHER OTHER ISSUE IS WILL ALL OF A SUDDEN BE ABLE TO TRACK THE MONEY FLOW FROM A COUNTY LAW AND YOU KNOW, FOR WHEREVER IT COMES FROM.

SO YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL TRAIL AND YOU'LL ALSO HAVE, WHEN THEY HAVE A CASE FILE, I'LL SAY TO GRAB A PAPER SOMEWHERE.

AND I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER THREE DOES A LOT OF STUFF, SHOWED US, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF VOLUMES AND VOLUMES OF CASES HE HAS.

YOU, LIKE, YOU GET OTHER SOFTWARE.

SO TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD YOU CAN JUST JUST CALL IT UP FROM THE PRODUCT.

AND ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE, I KNOW SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW WE'VE HAD TWO CONSTABLE THEFTS OVER THE YEARS.

WE BOTH HAD BOTH GROUND AND CONSTABLE WHAT? THEFTS? PHE, BEN AND ROSCO.

AND IT WAS TOUGH.

UH, THE AUDITOR WITH ROSCOE WAS HERE, WAS UM, JERRY PUTTY.

AND IT WAS A DAMN NEAR POSSIBLE.

THE ONLY WAY WE WERE ABLE TO CHECK IT OUT WAS, OKAY, THIS CONSTABLE HAS THIS MUCH MONEY, THIS CONSTABLE HAS THIS MUCH, AND THIS CONSTABLE DO SOMETHING WRONG.

AND MOST OF THEM WOULD TAKE THE MONEY THAT COMES IN FROM THE OUT OF TOWN OPERATOR AND THEY WOULD JUST HAVE THEIR CLERK DEPOSIT.

WELL, THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD CASH AND MONEY HIMSELF AND BUY A CHECK.

HE PAID COUNTY.

AND ON THE SECOND ONE THAT OCCURRED, IT WAS A REAL RESTRICTION OF THE PANEL THAT WENT TO PRECINCT ONE.

AND OF COURSE PRECINCT ONE SAID, I'VE PASSED BEFORE.

SO THE CONSTABLE OF PRECINCT THAT HE SAID, YEAH, WE'LL SEIZE THAT PRODUCT, BUT WE NEED MONEY.

SO THAT CONSTABLE CALLED THE LAW FIRM IN DALLAS AND SAID, YEAH, WE'LL DO THIS FOR YOU, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED PAYMENT APPROVAL TO EXECUTE THAT WRIT.

THE, AND THE LAW FIRM SAID, WELL HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PAY YOUR ? AND I SAID, ONCE.

AND THAT STARTED THE INVESTIGATION ON THE SECOND ONE.

AND AFTER CONSTABLE DID THAT, WELL THAT MAKES US PROUD.

BUT THAT YEARS AGO.

SO, BUT WE HAVE THAT ISSUE.

NO QUESTION.

IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE THE FINANCIAL DEBT ON MONEY

[01:35:01]

OR BACK TO THIS 6, 9, 7, UH, ON LINE.

I DON'T HAVE A LINE.

BUT ON THE COMPUTER REPAIRS, UH, IS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S SUFFICIENT? UH, IF I WOULD, IF I DID ANYTHING, I WOULD INCREASE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME VERY TALENTED PEOPLE HERE THAT START PULLING OUT AND CHANGING A LOT OF THE CISCO INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND I WOULD JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH THE START REFRESH.

WHY DON'T YOU REVIEW THAT? WE MAY WANT TO COME BACK AND WE CAN TALK AND, UH, I WANT OUR, YOU KNOW, WE WANT EVERYTHING TO BE AS ROBUST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AFFORD.

YOU KNOW, WITHIN YEARS WE COULDN'T, BUT WE CAN.

NOW WE HAVE WELL, I'M SAYING LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT IT CAN, OKAY.

WE'LL DO, OKAY.

AND SAME WAY ON INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR 45,000 AND WE'VE SPENT NINE TWO, I BELIEVE THROUGH UH, MARCH.

AND SO WHERE'RE WE ON WHICH ONE SIR? INFRASTRUCTURE WE'VE SPENT, UH, OUT OF THE THIRD SEVEN NINE, WE'VE SPENT 9 19, 2 50 19.

TWO 50.

YEAH.

I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE LORI JUST BROUGHT IT UP.

HER KW WERE DISCUSSING, AND I'M LISTENING, UH, THE CONSTABLES, A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE ASKED FOR SOME MONEY FOR SOFTWARE.

SO IS THIS THE SAME SOFTWARE? YEAH, IT'S, UH, IT'S SO SOFTWARE RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

IT'S BROKEN OUT SEPARATELY.

I DIDN'T REALIZE IT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE EACH ASKING FOR IT ON THEIR BUDGETS.

I'M SORRY.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT TOO ON THEIR BUDGET? OH, NO, NO, NO.

I MET WITH 'EM ALL.

I I HAVE A QUOTE FOR SOUTHERN SOFTWARE.

THIS IS FOR ALL FOUR CONSTABLES.

OH, OKAY.

AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT OFF.

YEAH, SURE.

WELL, YEAH, THEY, THEY HAD IT MENTIONED ON THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAD IT ADDED IN.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT SAYS ONE TIME FEE ON THIS.

THEY WERE SAYING THAT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DOUBLE BUDGET FOR US.

WE HAD A MODIFIED IT, THE ORIGINAL QUOTE BECAUSE CONSTABLE THREE, UM, HE'S SKI.

HE WANTS TO SCAN A LOT OF STUFF IN ATTITUDES AND THE OTHER GUYS DON'T.

SO WE HAD ADD SOME FUNCTIONALITY THAT IT WORKED BROUGHT UP WHY NOT SCAN IT ALL IN FOR THE DOCUMENTS PAPERLESS.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SO IS WHO ARE, ARE THEY DOING THAT FOR FOR THEIR JP NO, THIS IS THE THIS IS THEIR WORK.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD PAY FOR IT OUT OF THE UH, DARK.

THEY COULD CHOOSE TO.

THEY SURE COULD.

BUT I THINK SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD NO.

I THINK MARY BARTON SAID NO BECAUSE I THINK SHE, SEAN, THEY CAME WITH TICKET WRITERS AND ALL J FOUR JPS WAS ON BOARD TO BUY THOSE TICKET WRITERS.

AND THE NEXT YEAR WHEN THE MAINTENANCE COME UP, I GOT PHONE CALLS.

YOU BETTER NOT MY TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE I AIN'T PAYING FOR THEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

JUDGE, YOU MIGHT BE TALKING INTO HIM.

WELL, I MEAN, I, I DON'T WANNA DO IT.

IT'S NOT LEGAL.

I MEAN WHETHER IT'S LEGAL, NO.

IF, I MEAN, IF THE JPS WOULD APPROVE IT, BUT, WELL, I MEAN THERE IN THERE A LOT OF MONEY IN, IN THE TECHNOLOGY FIRM.

A LITTLE BIT LIKE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND WE FOR YOU.

YEAH.

NOW YEAH, THERE'S 237,000, THERE'S 237,000 IN THE JP.

THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY IT HUH? THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO SPEND IT.

WELL AND THAT'S, I KNEW CURIOUSLY THAT WERE US TO PAY FOR WHENEVER THEY GOT MONEY IN.

SO YEAH, ME TALKED ABOUT IT AND I FOUND THE MONEY.

FOUR OF THEM.

YES.

HOW MUCH? IT WAS LIKE SIX, 7,000.

OKAY.

WELL AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, THEY STARTED LOCKING IT BETTER THEN WE, WE GAVE PRECINCT ONE DEPUTY CONSTABLE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO BE OVERSEEING FOR ALL THE FOUR PRECINCTS.

YOU TAKE IT BACK.

MM-HMM .

HE WAS KIND OF LIKE THE ADMIN FOR I NOT SURE.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHY.

I THINK BARBARA'S YEAH, THERE'S NO, NOTHING TO ADMINIS COMES TO MIND.

WELL I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE HISTORY.

IT LIKE THE DEPARTMENT AND THEY SAY, OH WELL I WENT TO SCHOOL THIS WEEK FOR THAT.

NOW THEY NEED TO PAY ME AN EXTRA $1,200 OR 6,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT JUST SEEMS TO CONSTANTLY DO.

WE ASSUME YOU HAVE A WHOLE STACK OF THOSE EXTRA.

YEAH, I AGREE.

AND UH, ALRIGHT, LET'S, WE'LL CHECK THAT OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN POSSIBLY PULL THAT OFF.

[01:40:02]

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT WE'RE, IS PAID FROM THE TECHNOLOGY WE NEED PROBABLY.

AND SO THAT'S AN ISSUE.

IF THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO THE JPS, THAT MIGHT BE THE ANGLE TO GO THROUGH.

YEAH.

UH, TYLER TECHNOLOGY THAT'S ALWAYS, THAT IS OUR, A BIG ONE.

VA SOFTWARE SURFACE.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT OUT PREMISE BUSINESS AND IT COVERED BASICALLY.

SO WE, WE'VE BEEN PUSHED UP ON THAT E DISCOVERY TO GET THAT FIXED WITH VA.

RIGHT.

THERE'S ADDITIONAL SCHEDULED, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGH, UH, THE OTHER DAY THAT IT WAS COSTING US THE JUDGES ADDITION AND WE PAYING 16,000.

THEY DON'T GET IT.

REMEMBER? I, AND SO I UM, I'VE ASKED THEM TO, YOU KNOW, CANCEL THAT AND I THINK YOU SIGNED YEAH, I REMEMBER DOING THAT.

THEY JUST PREFER OLY THE CASE MANAGER OF A BENCH.

THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

SO THAT DID ELIMINATE THAT.

16.

SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 8,804.

AND THAT'S BASED ON THE UH, BUDGET LETTER FROM TYLER.

THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXACT QUOTE WE'RE HOLDING.

OKAY.

DOES TYLER TAKE GOOD CARE OF US? I MEAN, UM, THEY'RE A HUGE COMPANY.

THEY ARE HUGE.

THEY ARE THE MICROSOFT, OF COURSE THE JUSTICE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COUNTRYWIDE AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW.

THEY DO A LOT OF PUBLIC AGENCIES.

YOU CAN ASK WHAT DO YOU THINKING ABOUT? I KNOW THEY, I THINK THEY PROBABLY HAVE THE BEST CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, BUT IT IS VERY LARGE AND THE TRAINER IS EXPENSIVE.

YES.

AND IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH IT, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO CONTINUALLY ADD OR UPGRADE.

WHAT WAS IT? WE HAD AN ISSUE THE OTHER DAY THAT SOMEBODY SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY, WE HADN'T, I THINK BARBARA WAS WORKING ON IT.

THEY HADN'T UPDATED.

THERE WAS A, THERE, THERE WAS A RELEASE TO, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

THERE WAS A, THERE THERE'S DECIMAL.

SO WE WERE AT THE RIGHT RELEASE LEVEL, BUT THERE WAS FUNCTIONALITY OF ATTITUDE.

COUNTY COUNTY THAT WE COULD PUT IT, WE COULD GO GO OUT PILOT.

BECAUSE FUNCTIONALITY WE, WELL IT JUST THAT THE REASON I'M ASKING IF THEY TAKE CARE OF US, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE NO DOUBT.

BUT WELL, I KNOW IF WE WANNA CHANGE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE IMPROVED THAT WE GET THE IMPROVEMENT.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

I, I ASK ALL I KNOW TO ASK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY GENIUSES DOWN THERE.

GO AHEAD AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU GOT.

UNDERSTOOD.

ALRIGHT.

WE WILL WORK ON THE, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENTS WITH OUR COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE ENGINE.

FIND A DATE THAT AND WE'LL BEGIN THE DISCUSSION.

WHO KNOWS WHERE WE, I THINK IT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE, I THINK WE'RE BACK UP.

ALRIGHTY.

UH, WE'VE DONE THE AUDITORY.

I THINK WE, WE, THIS THE LIBRARY.

WE'VE HAD THE BREAK.

SO ANDREW, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE NEXT.

AND WHAT TIME IS IT? WELL, WE'RE NOT TOO FAR BEHIND.

SO YOU WANT TELL US WHAT YOUR COMP HERE WITH WE'RE ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

'CAUSE I HAD TO PROPOSE MY BUDGET TO A BOARD OF DIRECTORS BEFORE I, WE MET YESTERDAY, JUDGE WOODS ON THE BOARD AND I PROVIDED LUNCH BY THE WAY.

YOU PROVIDED HE DID NOT, HE DID NOT CONTRIBUTE ONE.

BUT I JUST GIVE YOU ALL A COPY OF WHAT I GAVE MY BOARD YESTERDAY THAT I JUDGE ADMIT, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A VOTE TO APPROVE OR RECOMMEND THAT, UH, WE NEED A COPY ANDREW CHANCE.

SURE.

YOU GO.

SO, UH, BUDGET WISE, I KNOW I I GOT THE MEMO.

I KNOW THERE'S A PROHIBITION ON ASKING FOR ANY SALARY INCREASES.

THE ONLY THING REALLY OUTTA THE ORDINARY FOR NEXT YEAR AND CLARIFY THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA DO

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A SALARY INCREASE.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT NOTHING ABOUT OUR REVENUE SOURCE.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I I JUST, I WANNA BE CLEAR EVERYBODY, WHAT I'M PROPOSING THERE AND WHAT WAS VOTED ON IS, UH, WE HAVE TWO, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT STAFF.

WHATEVER THEIR BASE SALARY IS, I'M ASKING YOU FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY TO HAVE THEM CERTIFIED CPAS.

AND OF COURSE THEY WOULD TAKE IN THEIR OWN TIME, UH, ONLINE IF THEY DO COMPLETE THAT, I'M ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL MONIES.

UH, BASICALLY A CERTIFICATE OR, UH, MERIT PAY ONCE THEY DO THAT.

ALSO A SLIGHT INCREASE IN DUES JUST, UH, REALLY REPRESENTS THE COST OF INFLATION.

AND SO THERE'S A, AN ASTERISK UP THERE, THE TRAINING EDUCATION, WHAT WE NORMALLY SPEND FOR CLE ON THE ATTORNEYS, UM, 4,400 OF THAT WOULD BE A ONE TIME EXPENSE THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

IT WOULD JUST REPRESENT THE TUITION FOR THE TWO PARALEGALS.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I'VE KIND OF INCLUDED OUR FISCAL YEAR NUMBERS TO DATE.

UH, THE MAY NUMBERS FOR DISPOSITIONS AREN'T TOTALLY COMPLETE.

THERE'S STILL SOME OF THOSE ROLLING IN THE END.

BUT THAT WOULD JUST KIND OF GIVE THE COURT AN IDEA OF THE NUMBER OF CASES AND WHAT TYPE OF CASES.

YEAH, YOU MIGHT KIND OF GO OVER THAT WITH EVERYBODY JUST SO THE COURT KNOW HOW MANY CASES YOU ARE HANDLING.

UM, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SECOND PAGE, THOSE ARE THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WOULD COME IN.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY ACCURATE THROUGH THE END OF LAST MONTH.

UH, AND SO IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT OUT THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'RE ON TRACK TO, UH, HANDLE BETWEEN 13 AND 1400 CASES.

UH, NOTHING YOU GUYS NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON.

I MET WITH MY BOARD, THE, THE, THE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF UPSIDE DOWN.

WE'RE ACTUALLY HANDLING MORE FELONIES, UH, THAN WHAT THE BAR ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS THAT WE SHOULD.

BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME ROOM WHERE WE CAN TAKE ON SOME MORE MISDEMEANORS.

AND SO MY BOARD IS, AGAIN, WE MET ON THAT YESTERDAY.

THEY'RE ADDRESSING THAT, TRYING TO TWEAK THOSE NUMBERS.

WE'LL CHANGE THE TOTAL NUMBER, BUT JUST THE WAY THEY'RE DISPERSED.

RIGHT.

YOU WERE HANDLING, UH, AND PART OF THAT IS THOSE, WE APPOINT A, AN ATTORNEY, A PRIVATE ATTORNEY, UH, FELONY CASES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.

THEY, THEY TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY.

AND SO THAT KIND OF GOT SKEWED.

BUT, UH, BUT NOW I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, YOUR MISDEMEANOR ATTORNEYS ARE ACTUALLY MEETING MORE MISDEMEANOR CASES IS WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS.

THEY THEY CAN HANDLE MORE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I SAY THEY DO, BUT YEAH, THERE'S SOME CAPACITY THERE THAT, IN MY ESTIMATION BEING UNDERUTILIZED.

BUT AGAIN, THE THE RIGHT WE AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND, WE DON'T CONTROL THE CASES THAT WE GET.

RIGHT.

THEY COME ACROSS THE DESK.

AND SO THE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT, THAT THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED TO TRY.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR COURSE, THIS OFFICE WAS STARTED, YOUR PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE WAS STARTED WITH A GRANT BACK IN 20 2007, 2007.

UH, AND OF COURSE IT, THE GRANT, UH, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT EVENTUALLY IT, IT, IT WAS ELIMINATED BECAUSE ON A STAIR STEP DEAL.

AND SO NOW WE FULLY FUND THIS OFFICE.

AND YOU, HOW MANY ATTORNEYS DO YOU HAVE? WE HAVE, UH, MYSELF INCLUDED ARE STORE ATTORNEYS.

OKAY.

AND THE, UH, OFFICE OF, UH, THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR, NOT ADMINISTRATOR, THE, UH, ANNETTE, WHAT'S HER TITLE? UH, ENGINE DEFENSE.

THE ENGINE DEFENSE COORDINATOR, UH, NOW SENDS THOSE CASES, UH, ACTUALLY EITHER TO A PRIVATE ATTORNEY OR TO YOU.

YES.

AND SO AFTER SHE'S CHECKED THEIR, UH, MAKE SURE THEY'RE INDIGENT, WE, AND MY, THE STORY WAS WE HAD SOMEBODY BACK YEARS AGO THAT, UH, WAS APPOINTED A COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY AND HE HAD A $200,000 HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE DONE A LOT BETTER JOB, I THINK OF CHECKING INTO THAT NOW.

ELIMINATED SOME PEOPLE KIND OF LIKE, UH, DESIREE DOES DOWNSTAIRS WITH, WE'VE GIVEN MORE, MORE TOOLS THAN THAT.

SO, UH, AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS CASES THAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY, UH RIGHT.

AND, AND THOSE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, THOSE NUMBERS NEVER COMPLETELY MATCH UP.

BUT THEY'RE, SOME YEARS WE'RE AHEAD.

SOME YEARS WE'RE BEHIND.

BEHIND.

BUT IT KIND OF AVERAGES OUT.

YEAH.

AND UH, ONE OF THE LADIES IN HER OFFICE, KIND OF HER SIDE JOB IS TO BE OUR STATISTICIAN.

SHE KEEPS ALL THESE NUMBERS.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE VERY BACK PAGE AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY BROKEN DOWN BY DISPOSITIONS FOR EACH ATTORNEY.

WHAT TYPE OF CASES, WHAT COURT THEY APPEARED IN, HOW THE CASES WERE DISPOSED.

THAT'S VERY GOOD INFORMATION TO, TO HAVE.

SO LIKE I SAID, IF YOU'LL DONE, I PROBABLY DISCOUNT THOSE MAY NUMBERS.

UH, THERE'S STILL SOME ROLLING IN, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS ACCURATE THROUGH THE END OF APRIL.

OKAY.

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ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS OF THE OFFICE ITSELF AND HOW IT OPERATES? OKAY.

UH, LOOKING DOWN THROUGH THERE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING I DON'T BELIEVE.

ARE YOU? UH, NO.

UH, KAREN OR KW? I THINK PERCENTAGE WISE WE'RE, AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK, AREN'T WE? YEAH, I, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING OF THE WORKING HEARING.

UH, THE ONLY TWO THINGS I WOULD ASK THAT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THERE AND IS ACTUALLY NOT ON MY OFFICE'S PERSONAL BUDGET IS THE SECRETARIES ARE ASKING IF THEY WOULD HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL COMPUTER MONITORS JUST SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO SWITCH IN AND OUT OF PROGRAMS. TWO SCREENS.

RIGHT.

UH, BUT THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE IT BUDGET.

AND THEN I GOT A PHONE CALL YESTERDAY.

ONE OF OUR SOFTWARE CONTRACTS IS UP FOR RENEWAL.

UH, I DIDN'T MAKE ENOUGH COPIES FOR EVERYBODY AND I LITERALLY JUST GOT THAT YESTERDAY.

DOES THAT COME OUT OF GEORGE'S? I I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL FOLDED INTO GEORGE'S BUDGET.

IT IS A, AGAIN, A MODERATE INCREASE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE USE AND I GUESS I JUST NEED TO KNOW I SIGN OFF ON THAT OR DOES THAT NEED TO GO TO GEORGE? GO TO GEORGE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND IT'S LIKE, WE'RE PAYING $187 A MONTH.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S GOING TO 196.

RIGHT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING EITHER A THREE YEAR OR FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A DISCOUNT BEFORE YOU EXTEND THE CONTRACT OUT.

AND I, I WOULD GIVE IT TO, UH, GEORGE AND, AND ALSO TO THE AUDITOR.

SO THEY'LL, TO MAKE SURE WE, UH, JUDGE WOOD.

YES, MA'AM.

CLARIFICATION THE MONITORS COME OUTTA YOUR OFFICE SPOT.

THEY WILL.

THEY WILL.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE WAY WE, WE HAD TO DO OURS.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S THE WAY EVERYBODY ELSE HAS HAD TO DO IT.

GEORGE'S LINE ITEM IS FOR WHENEVER SOMETHING BREAKS.

OKAY.

IF YOU HAVE A MONITOR THAT DOESN'T FUNCTION, THEN HE'LL REPLACE IT UNDER HIS, BUT WE, WE PROBABLY HAVE ENOUGH EXISTING FUNDS THAT, WHAT'S THE 75? THEY'RE 500.

DEPENDS.

AND HOW BIG YOU WANT IT NOT TO MENTION, I GUARANTEE THEY SIZE 65.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

GOOD.

ANYBODY ELSE? GLASSES? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR ANDREW? OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

ALRIGHT, BRENDA, ARE YOU BACK AGAIN? WE ARE BACK.

WEREN'T YOU HERE YESTERDAY? WE ALREADY DO HERE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ARE YOU GONNA COME UP WITH 'EM OR ARE YOU NOT? UH, SHE'S IN SPIRIT WITH US IN SPIRIT.

INCAPACITATED.

YOU'RE GOOD.

I'M JUST GIVING YOU A HARD TIME.

SHE FELL YESTERDAY.

SHE DOESN'T NEED TO BE GOING ANYWHERE.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

I'M SO SORRY.

I'LL TRY TO BE NICE.

OKAY.

I ASKED, UH, THESE THREE LADIES MET WITH ME, UH, WHAT LAST WEEK? I, YES.

AND, UH, THEY, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHOWERS AND THEY'VE ALL HEARD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE'RE ON SALARY.

WE WERE WAITING TO, TO, UH, SEE WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO.

BUT THEY SPENT SOME TIME, UH, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND, UH, TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AND I COMMEND THEM FOR DOING THIS.

WHAT THEY GAVE ME, I TOLD THEM, UH, I, IT, IT LOOKED REASONABLE FOR ME.

UH, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF THE, UH, IF THEY APPEARED HERE WITH THE COURT AND KIND OF EXPLAIN WHERE YOU ARE AND WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WHAT YOU WOULD DO.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THE SPOKE PERSON IS.

WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THREE.

ALL, ALL THREE DEPART NOW.

YES.

WE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE COUNTYWIDE, THREE OF THE LARGEST COUNTYWIDE OFFICES THAT ARE CONSTITUTIONAL.

AND WE'VE SAT IN EUROPE YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND OUR CLERK'S HIRING AT 26,986.

AND YOU HIRE IN, UH, LADY WAITING, A SECRETARY, A RECEPTIONIST.

YOU'RE A GOOGLE.

BUT ANYBODY EVER GOOGLED THE LADY AND LADY, SHE WAITS FOR A ROYAL EMAIL.

UM, BUT THESE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE JUST COME IN AT A MUCH HIGHER SALARY AND THEY'RE DOING THE SAME JOB WE ARE DOING.

SO WE CAME UP WITH A, AND AND WE USED OTHER COUNTIES.

WE WENT AND IT WENT TO SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES AND WENT THROUGH DIFFERENT PLACE PAY PLANS AND WE KIND OF SETTLED ON THIS ONE.

AND WE ALSO WORK WITH THE JPS ON IT, WHICH IS WHY IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY FAMILIAR.

BUT BASICALLY WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT OUR DEPUTY CLERKS BE RAISED UP TO, UH, THE

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BASIC LEARNING SALARY THAT EV OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING.

AND WE WERE BASING IT OFF OF SENIORITY AT THE TIME BECAUSE AS WE, IN ALL OUR OFFICES, AS THEY GROW IN SENIORITY, THEY ALSO ARE CROSS TRAINED TO THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OF THE OFFICE.

SO THEY GAIN EXPERIENCE BY MOVING AROUND AND DOING VARIOUS SHOTS, WHICH IS WHY WE BASE IT ON EXPERIENCE.

UM, MET WITH JUDGE AND SAID, PLEASE CONSIDER HAVING OUR OFFICES COMPARABLE WITH THE OTHER OFFICES.

AND FOR ONE, AND, AND I'M, UH, I WILL SAY COLLECTIONS, I HAD A STACK OF TWO PEOPLE WHO HIRED IN AT 26, 9 86, MADE THEIR WAY UP TO 30.

AND WHEN THE OFFICE OPENED UNDER THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO KEEP THINGS FAIR IN HER OFFICE, I BELIEVE THAT STARTING SALARY WAS 32 TO 36.

AND THE SUPERVISOR WHO WAS IN MY OFFICE DOING THE JOB WENT FROM 30,000 TO 40.

42 TO 48.

AND WHAT YOU SAID, THAT'S NOT FAIR, IT'S NOT EQUITABLE.

IT'S THE SAME JOB.

IT'S THE SAME JOB DESCRIPTION.

BUT WHEN IT WENT UNDERNEATH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SHE WANTED TO MAKE IT EQUAL TO WHAT SHE PAID HER STAFF SO THAT THEY CAN CROSS TRAIN AND MOVE AROUND, WHICH WAS FINE.

BUT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME SORT OF SALARY STRUCTURE IN THIS COUNTY THAT IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACROSS EACH ELECTED'S OFFICE.

AND WHEN THE DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED, THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT PERSON WILL MAKE.

NOT A QUESTION OF WHERE DID YOU COME UP WITH THE MONEY? WE TALKED TO .

YEAH.

AND THAT 26, WHAT'D YOU SAY? 9 86.

9 86.

THAT WASN'T, I MEAN THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, I THINK, AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS, UH, INTERESTED.

I KNOW THAT WHEN JUDGE JEN WAS HERE, IT WAS 22 AND THERE WAS A $5,000 RAISE AND IT JUST BUMPED IT UP TO 27 BECAUSE WHEN I GOT HERE, MY, MY EMPLOYEE'S STARTING SALARY WAS LIKE 14,000.

14,000.

WHAT'S THAT? 19,000? 50.

50.

WHAT YOU ALSO GOT JUDGE, ASK TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH THE AUDITOR AND COME ON WITH WHAT THIS INCREASE PROPOSED.