* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. UH, JUST [00:00:01] ONE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT. IF YOU ARE HERE, UH, TO, UH, AND YOU WISH TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM THAT IS ON THE MR. COURT AGENDA, UH, PLEASE SIGN UP TO DO SO. THERE IS A FORM, UH, I BELIEVE NOW THE COUNTY CLERK HAS IT, MS. UH, AND IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT YOU WANT TO, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO, UH, YOU CAN, OR IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO, THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY TOO. SO, UH, JUST, UH, UH, LET US, LET US KNOW, UH, UH, WELCOME EVERYBODY THIS MORNING. UH, TODAY IS MONDAY, DECEMBER 11TH, UH, 2017. IT'S NINE O'CLOCK. AND, UH, WE'LL CALL THE, UH, UH, MEETING TO ORDER. THE FIRST ITEM OF THE BUSINESS WILL BE THE INVITATION, UH, AND I'VE ASKED COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO DO THAT. PLEASE, FATHER, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR YOUR SON WHO DIED FOR US, THAT WHEN OUR TIME COMES, THAT WE CAN HAVE A LIFE WITH YOU FOR ETERNITY. AND AS WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS FOR THE COUNTY THAT WE DO SO WITH, UH, THE GREATEST JUDGMENT THAT WE CAN USE ON THE ITEMS WE SELECT AND GIVE US THE ABILITY TO CARRY OFF EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY WE'RE GONNA DO THIS TIME OF YEAR. WE'RE ALWAYS MINDFUL OF YOUR SON OF HIS BIRTH, BUT WE SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE LIVE IN SUCH A FREE COUNTRY. WE CAN MEET LIKE THIS, WE CAN PRAY LIKE THIS, AND WE CAN SERVE EACH FELLOW MAN AS WE NEED TO LEST THOSE WHO ARE TAKING CARE OF US WHEREVER THEY ARE, ESPECIALLY THE MILITARY WHO'S AWAY FROM THE FAMILIES. AND WE PRAY THAT SOMEDAY THAT THE WARS, WHEREVER THEY MAY BE, WILL NO LONGER EXIST. WE GIVE US ALL IN YOUR SON'S NAME, LADIES, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE BEING INVISIBLE. THANK, AND WE'LL DO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE FIRST. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS. UH, YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE WAY OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. UH, ONE OF IS, UM, PARDON IN THE MAIL, UH, FROM THE LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 30TH, WE GOT A LETTER FROM THE TEXAS LOTTERY COMMISSION. AND NORMALLY WE DON'T GET LETTERS COMMISSION, AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF BINGO, UH, FACILITIES AROUND OUR COUNTY. AND THERE IS A FEE THAT IS ATTACHED TO THAT. WE ACTUALLY BUDGETED $40,000 IN THIS CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, UH, THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE FROM THE BINGO, UH, HALLS AROUND THE, AROUND THE COUNTY. AND THEN JUST OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE, WE GET THIS, UH, LETTER. FIRST I HEARD OF IT, I DON'T REMEMBER IT GETTING ANY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE OR, OR ANY ACTIVITY WE'VE BEEN TO. AND IT TALKED ABOUT HOUSE BILL 25 78. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT I SENT THIS TO THE, UH, MR. COOK, SO SHE'D BE AWARE. AND I'LL, UH, JUST UNDERLINE COUNT DOWN IN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH. IT SAYS, IN COURT WITH THE STATUTORY FISCAL YEAR, 20, FISCAL YEAR 2018, UH, ALLOCATION WILL OCCUR AFTER THE END OF FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT'S AUGUST 3RD, 2018. DISTRIBUTION OF FISCAL YEAR 2018. ALLOCATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR HERE THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, 2018. AND IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THESE WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, LESS THAN PRIOR 25 78. SO, UH, HOUSE BILL 25 78. SO WE'LL GET SOMETHING I GUESS THIS YEAR. VERY, [00:05:01] IT'S, UH, JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE. NOT IN THAT REGARD. UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, UH, FORWARD, MADE YOU A COPY OF. AND IT'S FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL THE JURISDICTION, UH, APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL JURISDICTIONS FOR THE MULTI JURISDICTION HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN FOR COFFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS. AND WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE ENTITIES. IT PRETTY WELL COVERS, UH, MOST OF OUR COUNTY ENTITIES, I THINK STEVE, AND, UH, JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT WE, UH, ALL OUR, CERTAINLY THE COUNTY AND, UH, MANY OF THE CITIES AND, UH, UH, I GUESS ALL OF THE ISDS NOW PARTICIPATING, UH, PARTICIPATING IN ANYTHING YOU COULD ADD. OTHER IS WHEN WE SUBMITTED IT, FOR SOME REASON THEY DIDN'T ADD 'EM ALL IN THERE. ALL OF OUR CITIES, AND EXCEPT FOR ONE AND ALL OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE PART OF OUR MITIGATION PLANS. AND THAT OPENS UP, UH, GRANTS THAT WE'LL BE AVAILABLE, I BELIEVE, TO ACCESS NOT ONLY US, BUT OUR CITIES AS WELL. AND WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTY THAT HAS A, A COMPLETE JU UH, COMPLETE PARTICIPATION FROM ALL OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT SPEAKS WELL FOR COLMAN COUNTY. ANYWAY, I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. THAT IS GOOD USE. SO, UH, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON INTO THE, UH, AGENDA. WE HAVE, UH, THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM A IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTING DR. WILLIAM J FORTNER AS THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR KAMAN COUNTY FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, BEGINNING JANUARY THE FIRST, 2018. AS YOU KNOW, DR. PORTNER HAS SERVED, UH, IN THAT CAPACITY FOR MANY YEARS FOR US, AND IS ALWAYS, UH, HELPFUL IN RESPONSE TO OUR NEEDS. ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND PAYING ANNUAL VIEWS. UH, AND ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER THE 13TH, 2017, UH, NOVEMBER THE 27TH, 2017, AND SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER THE 15TH, 2017 IN NOVEMBER, THE 22ND, 2017. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY, UH, ANY IDEAS? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, MOTION APPROVE? I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN. I HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS MORE OR LESS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM. UH, AND IT'S TO REVIEW AND, UH, AND DISCUSS THE, IF YOU'D LIKE, THE COUNTY BOND, UH, LEVERAGING FROM TDOT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. I BELIEVE YOU, UH, I KNOW YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT, UH, IN YOUR AGENDA. I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. JOHN, UH, SENT THIS TO US, AND, UH, YOU WILL, UH, NOTICE, UH, THE COVER LETTER YOU HAVE FROM JOHN, AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK, UH, YOU'LL SEE HOW THE VARIOUS PROJECTS HAVE, HOW WE LEVERAGED NOT ONLY TDO MONEY, BUT I BELIEVE RTC MONEY. AND SO, UH, UH, THE WHOLE EXPENDITURES ON THE COUNTY, UH, MONEY HAS BEEN $21,278,433. THE MONEY, UH, THE COST OF THE TOTAL PROJECTS THAT TDO HAS DELIVERED IS A 52 MILLION 6 5 44 SHOWS. WE'RE DOING 86, YEAH, 80, 86% IMPROVEMENTS. AND THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE, BY THE WAY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL THE REPAIRS OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT DOZENS OF, OF STATE HIGHWAYS THAT ARE BEING UPGRADED ACROSS THE, AND I DON'T, YEAH, IT INCLUDES A LITTLE BIT OF HIGHWAY CODE, UH, FOR NORTH. SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. WE HAD A BOND PACKAGE WITH 56 MILLION. UH, WE, EACH COMMISSION'S PRECINCT WAS WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, FOR THEIR [00:10:01] PRECINCT, I THINK. I'M PRETTY SURE ALL THAT HAS BEEN SPENT. AND, UH, SO, UH, WE STILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY LEFT TO GO. SO ANYWAY, GOOD REPORT EVERYBODY. HAVE JOHN DONE A GREAT JOB. JOHN'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB, SO, AND WITH MUCH WORK LEFT TO GO. YES. SO ALL ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER AWARD OF RFQ ZERO 2.18 DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTIONS. UH, LISA, I BELIEVE, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, BEEN WORKING ON THIS, AND I ALSO THINK I HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF, OR A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASKED TO, UH, SHEET, BUT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE, UH, YOUR, UH, INFORMATION TO US IF YOU'LL YES, I PROVIDED YOU GENTLEMEN WITH THE, UH, EVALUATION SHEETS WHERE THE BOARD MET AND WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE RFQ. UM, THEY GRADED OUT THE THREE FIRMS THAT RESPONDED TO THE RFQ. AND AS Y'ALL SEE, UM, THERE WAS, UH, THE FIRST LAW FIRM SCORED 50 SCORE SCORED 694, AND PURDUE SCORED 579. AND THAT'S BASED ON THE SEVEN PERSON PANEL THAT MET BACK ON THURSDAY. OKAY. I BELIEVE THERE WAS, UH, AS YOU SAID, A COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL. YES, IT WAS A COMMITTEE MADE UP OF, UH, FOLKS FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, FROM THE COMMISSIONER, UH, AND OF COURSE, MS. SAMPLES DEPARTMENT WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. UH, WE HAVE TWO GENTLEMEN, UH, THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR. UH, ONE IS DOUG BURNSIDE AND, UH, DOUG GARLAND. WHERE ARE YOU? HERE, RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT HERE. WE'RE GLAD TO SPEAK TO US AND THANK YOU. FORWARD, YOU REPRESENT, UH, YES, SIR. I'M WITH PURDUE, BRANDON, GEORGE. BRANDON. OKAY. I'M HERE. I SEAT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY FIRM. SURE. AGAIN, WHEN, WHEN THIS PROPOSAL CAME OUT, UM, WE KNEW THAT ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO OVERCOME WAS THE UNSEAT AND INCUMBENT OF MORE THAN 30 YEARS PROVIDING SERVICE FOR THE COUNTY. AND FROM OUR VIEWPOINT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO DO. MAKE CHANGE CAN BE HARD, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRIED TO DO IN OUR FIRM IS JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING'S BEEN DONE A LONG WAY, DONE ONE WAY FOR A LONG TIME, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE BEST WAY. WE BELIEVE THAT THE TIME FOR CHANGE FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY IS NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE IN WHAT THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED. WE, WE'VE GIVEN THREE GOOD REASONS AND OUR PROPOSAL, WE HAVE LOTS OF REASONS WHY WE THINK WE'RE THE BEST CHOICE FOR THE COUNTY, BUT OUR PROPOSAL, WE, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THREE OF THEM. THE FIRST ONE IS THE OUTSTANDING COLLECTIONS THAT OUR FIRM PROVIDES. WE COLLECT FOR ONE ENTITY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, AND THAT ENTITY IS 40 ISD. SINCE THE TIME WE TOOK THAT OVER, WE IMMEDIATELY INCREASED THEIR COLLECTIONS, AND WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY AND SUBSTANTIALLY AND SUBSTANTIALLY KEPT IT AS THE HIGHEST COLLECTING ENTITY IN THE COUNTY. ON PAGE THREE OF THE, THE HANDOUTS, IT SHOWS A, A COMPARISON BETWEEN 40 ISD COLLECTIONS AND ALL THE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY AND KAUFMAN COUNTY. WE FEEL THAT KAUFMAN COUNTY'S LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. THE SECOND REASON TO MAKE THIS CHANGE IS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY DONE IT ONCE BEFORE, WHETHER WHEN YOU CHANGED TO OUR FIRM FROM THE, FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY JPS COLLECTIONS, UM, AT THE SAME TIME WE HAD THE SAME INCUMBENT FIRM AND WE SWITCHED TO US. AND I THINK THAT CHANGED THEM A HUGE SUCCESS FOR THE COUNTY. I THINK ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE HEARD FROM THE, FROM THE JPS ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THEM, THE SERVICE WE PROVIDED, AND THE INCREASING COLLECTIONS. UH, IN THE, IN THE HANDOUT I GAVE YOU, WE SHOW YOU, UM, LETTERS FROM EACH OF THE JPS RECOMMENDING OUR FIRM. IF YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE JPS, I THINK YOU REALLY SHOULD BECAUSE IT HIGHLIGHTS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO FIRMS, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE. UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING AND THE SERVICE WE'VE PROVIDED TO THE JPS AND THEIR STAFF HAS BEEN EXCELLENT. UH, THE FINAL REASON THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS OUR SERVICES COME AT ABSOLUTELY NO COST TO THE COUNTY. THE FEES THAT WE ARE PAID IS BORN ENTIRELY BY THE TAXPAYER. IT'S A STATUTORY ADDITIONAL PENALTY ADDED ONTO THE TAXES. AND IF THAT PENALTY ISN'T ATTACHED TO IT, WE DON'T COLLECT A FEE. BUT IF IT IS, THAT'S HOW WE GET PAID. ONE AREA WHERE SOME FIRMS DIFFER FROM US IS THAT IN BANKRUPTCY SELECTIONS, WHEREAS NOT ALL THE ACCOUNTS THAT ARE IN BANKRUPTCY THAT WE HAVE TO FILE PROOF OF CLAIMS FOR HAVE ADDITIONAL PENALTY ON IT. IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PENALTY ON THE ACCOUNT, WE STILL COLLECT IT, BUT WE DON'T GET A FEE FOR IT. OTHER FIRMS ACTUALLY CHARGE A PERCENTAGE OF THE COLLECTIONS SO THAT THEY'RE CUTTING THE MONEY THAT THE COUNTY WOULD RECEIVE. UM, NOW IN ADDITION, WE DON'T CHARGE FOR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S ALL WORN BY THE TAXPAYER. YOU KNOW, THOSE REASONS THAT THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD WITH THE JPS, THAT OUTSTANDING COLLECTIONS WE DO RIGHT HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY. WE THINK THAT WE'RE THE BEST TERM FOR KAMAN COUNTY. WE THINK THE TIME FOR CHANGE IS NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING YOUR REMARKS, WHICH SAID THE THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND I, I WASN'T TIMING YOU, BUT I THINK THEY GOT WITHIN THAT TIME. ALRIGHT, THE SECOND PERSON, UH, THAT IS, UH, ON THE REQUEST TO [00:15:01] SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS, UH, JEFF BROWN. UH, JEFF, YOUR FRONT CENTER RIGHT THERE. OKAY, JUDGE. AND THE NAME OF YOUR FIRM IS, I'M BLA. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, COLLECTING COLLECTIVE PROPERTY TAXES HERE SINCE 1985. I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN DOING IT, UH, FOR THE COUNTY SINCE 1987. UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, COLLECTIONS HERE ARE NOT ALWAYS EASY. IT'S, UH, WE, WE HAVE A STAFF THAT'S IN PLACE TO, TO GO TO GO DO THE HARD CASES, TO, TO DO THE HARD RESEARCH, TO GO FIND PEOPLE WHO HAVE, ARE LONG GONE OR TRY TO FIND THEIR AREAS FOR DECEASED, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WE HAVE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE OVER THE YEARS IN, IN COLLECTING LIQUID PROPERTY TAXES HERE IN THE COUNTY. WE'VE HAD AN AGGRESSIVE, UH, UH, PERSONAL PROPERTY COLLECTION, UH, EFFORT WITH REGARD TO SEIZURES AND GOING AFTER, UH, PROPERTY THAT CAN LEAD. UH, MANUFACTURED HOUSING AT ONE POINT WAS A HUGE PROBLEM HERE IN TON COUNTY TERMS LATENCY. WE'VE WORKED IN THAT A LOT THAT IT IS NO LONGER QUITE AS BIG A PROBLEM AS IT WAS, WAS MORE THAN ANYTHING WE, WE COMMITTED THE, THE TIME, THE RESOURCES AND THE PERSONNEL TO, TO, TO GET THIS JOB DONE. UH, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE HERE, SITTING HERE ALONG THE WALL. UH, CARRIE AND CINDY AND LOUANN ARE, ARE VERY MUCH INVESTED IN, IN COLLECTING THE PROPERTY TAXES HERE AND, AND IN, IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT JUST EASY. IT'S NOT JUST AN EASY JOB. YOU HAVE TO, UH, EMPLOYEES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE RESOURCES, HAVE TO PERSONNEL. WE, WE, AS, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE ARE A FULL, UH, FULL SERVICE PULLING FROM TAX LAW FIRM. WE DO HAVE BANKRUPTCIES AS WELL. WE, WE DO A GREAT JOB WITH BANKRUPTCY. WE HAVE A, OUR BANKRUPTCY DEPARTMENT, THE TON COUNTY IS IN DALLAS. THEY, THEY DO, THEY WORK ON NEW CASES EVERY DAY. AND WE, WE CONTINUE TO, WE WILL PLEDGE TO BE HERE. WE'RE JUST ACROSS, UH, UH, SQUARE HERE FROM TO THE COURTHOUSE. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ACCESSIBLE TO THE TAX OFFICE AND WE'RE HERE EVERY DAY. THANK YOU FOR THE, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE'VE HAD TO OVER THESE PAST 32 YEARS AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WORKING. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, BEFORE WE TAKE A LOOK, I'D LIKE TO, UH, HEAR AGAIN ABOUT THE EVALUATION SCORES AGAIN, UH, EVALUATION. WELL, UH, THE SCORES AND I'M SORRY, THE SCORES, HOW Y'ALL GRADED, WHAT Y'ALL DID. UM, THE GRADING WAS BASED ON, UH, LET'S SEE, WE HAD VENDOR COLLECTION, TECHNOLOGY COMPATIBILITY WAS 30 POINTS MAXIMUM VENDOR SUPPLIED REFERENCES SIMILAR SIZE TO KAMAN COUNTY WAS 20 POINTS MAXIMUM OVERALL QUALITY OF SUBMITTED RFQ, THE PROPOSED PLAN, MAXIMUM OF 20 POINTS. VENDOR'S PERSONAL EXPERTISE WAS A MAXIMUM OF 20 POINTS. AND THE COST OF PROPOSED SERVICES WAS A MAXIMUM OF 10 POINTS. AND THE SCORES AGAIN, UM, THE AZARA WAS 50, LINEBARGER WAS 694. PURDUE BRANDON WAS 579. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, ARE WE READY TO, FOR A QUESTION? HAVE A VOTE OR A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION STATE OF, ALRIGHT, WE'LL HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN THAT WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONTRACT WITH THE LINE BARER, UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A, UH, THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. UH, BOTH WILL WITH LINE. SO THAT'S A THREE, TWO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH PARTICIPATION IN DOING THAT. I KNOW IT'S A BIG CONTRACT AND APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN IN COFFEE COUNTY. ALL THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING NEW VOTING EQUIPMENT FROM THE ELECTRONIC, UH, SYSTEMS AND SOFTWARE IN THE AMOUNT OF $732,263 AND 77 CENTS, UTILIZING FIVE CONTRACT NUMBER 5 4 2 1 7. AND THE, LISA, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS TOO. YES, UH, MYSELF, AND OF COURSE, MS. SAMPLE STAFF HAS WORKED ON IT QUITE HOT AND HEAVY FOR SEVERAL WEEKS. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A REVISED QUOTE FROM ONE OF THE VENDORS. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE, THERE'S ONLY TWO VENDORS APPARENTLY IN THE STATE THAT ARE CERTIFIED, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE PRICING OUT. SO WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PLAYERS. UM, THIS WAS, UH, APPROVED IN COURT, UH, BACK EARLIER TO SEND OUT FOR AN RFP, BUT ONCE [00:20:01] STARTED COLLECTING, UH, DATA AND SCOPE TO PUT OUT ON THIS, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE TWO VENDORS ARE ACTUALLY ON A CO-OPERATIVE. SO DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS, YOU CHOSE TO GO THAT AVENUE VERSUS A SEALED PROPOSAL. UM, AS I PRESENTED YOU GENTLEMEN IN YOUR PACKETS WITH THE ORIGINAL PROPOSALS, WHICH WERE, UM, THAT ES AND S WAS $732,263 AND 77 CENTS, PART INNER CIVIC, UH, THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS $1,154,055. UM, APP. LOTS AND LOTS OF EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH. ONCE IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA TO AWARD TWO ES AND S UH, SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER PART COME BACK WITH THIS NEW PROPOSAL THAT YOU GENTLEMEN NOW HAVE. UM, LIKE I SAID, I JUST RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION LATE THURSDAY. SO THAT'S YOURS DECISION IS KIND OF, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY MS SAMPLES, UH, FEEL STRONGLY ON VENDORS AND VENDOR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS, UH, BEING USER FRIENDLY ON SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT AND BEING ABLE TO GET IT IN PLACE BY THE, UH, MARCH DEADLINE. SO I'M GOING TO, YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE THE INFORMATION AND MS SAMPLES HAS THEIR STRONG, SHE HAS A YES SIR. UH, BACK IN MARCH PART WITH THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY WERE GONNA GIVE US A SPECIAL DISCOUNT OF $74,630. BUT THEN AFTER THEY SAW THE, UH, OUR COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA, THEY SAW WHERE, UH, S AND S HAD MADE THEIR BID. SO THEN THEY COME AND UNDERCUT 'EM. UH, KEN CAME BY TUESDAY BEFORE WE, WE HAD AN ELECTION, A COMMITTEE, I MEAN ELECTION, UM, MEETING IN, UH, CANTON. IT'S OUR QUARTERLY ELECTION MEETING. AND HE, UH, CAME BY TO SEE IF WE WERE GONNA BE THERE. AND OF COURSE WE SAID WE WERE, HE WOULD SEE US, BUT I THINK HE CHOSE TO COME OVER HERE INSTEAD. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE HE CAME OVER HERE TO STRONG ARM THE COUNTY IS WHAT I FELT LIKE HE TRIED TO DO. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN TO UNDERCUT TOO. SO, UH, MY DEAL IS ARE WE GONNA HAVE A STRAINED RELATIONSHIP WITH WHO? WITH, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET HEARTS EQUIPMENT, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A STRAINED RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM WORKING RELATIONSHIP? AND WHO ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? I RECOMMEND THE SNS. THEY CAME IN, THEY CAME IN AND DID LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO OUR FIRST BID FROM HEART. THEY, THEY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THEIR FIRST ONE, THEY WOULD NEVER GIVE US A A, THE PROPER BID. YOU KNOW, THE BEST BID WHEN YOU'RE ASKED TO GIVE A BID, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GO IN WITH YOUR BEST BED. AND THAT WHAT, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THEY SAW WHAT THE S AND SS IS. WELL, WE HAD THE SYSTEMS HERE, EVERYBODY LOOKED AT AND TRIED. YES, SIR. WHICH ONE WAS IT THAT EVERYBODY LIKED? YES MA'AM. AND DUE TO HART'S COMPANY SUING THE SECRETARY OF STATE, THAT CAUSED US A DELAY IN BEING ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO DO. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE IN SUCH A TIME CONSTRAINT TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET TO THE, WHERE WE CAN BUY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT EQUIPMENT AND THAT TYPE OF THING. OKAY. WE HAVE, UH, ONE PERSON I BELIEVE WHO SIGNED UP. KEN, THAT'S YOU. THAT'S, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD DOWN. WE'LL TRY KEEP THREE MINUTES. OKAY. I'M KEN REDWAY, I REPRESENT HARDIN CIVIC. WE ARE YOUR CURRENT ELECTIONS VENDOR. UM, BEEN WORKING WITH CALTON COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS AND ENJOYED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU. UM, THAT, UH, $1.1 MILLION PROPOSAL THAT WAS JUST REFERENCED IN THE PACKET. UM, THAT'S JUST STRAIGHT CATALOG PRICING OF ALL THE COUNTIES THAT HAVE BOUGHT, UH, OUR NEW VOTING SYSTEM THIS YEAR. NOBODY'S PAID CATALOG PRICING. UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE WOULD BE AN RFP OR MIGHT BE AN RFP AND SO I WASN'T GOING TO MAKE A PRICE PROPOSAL IN ADVANCE OF THAT. [00:25:01] UM, AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS NOT GONNA BE AN RP AND THAT THIS PROCUREMENT COULD BE OFF THE BY BOARD, WHICH WE WERE ALSO ON, WHICH WAS LAST WEDNESDAY, THAT'S WHEN I MADE A, A PRICE PROPOSAL. SO, UM, WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE AN RFP UNTIL LET, UM, ANYWAY, WE'VE, UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO RETAIN YOUR BUSINESS, OF COURSE, UM, KEEP OUR PARTNERSHIP GOING. THE SYSTEM YOU LOOKED AT EARLIER IN THE YEAR WITH AN ELECTRONIC SYSTEM. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. UM, THE COUNTY HAS SINCE THEN DECIDED TO GO TOWARD A BALLOT MARKING DEVICE SOLUTION, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, UH, SYSTEM, WHICH I HAVEN'T EVER SHOWN HERE. BUT, UM, AGAIN, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS MAY HAPPEN NOW, MAYBE LATER ON NEXT YEAR, SOMETIME UNTIL LAST WEDNESDAY. SO THAT'S WHY ALL THE, THE LAST MINUTE ACTIVITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WE'VE, UH, HAD, UH, HEARD FROM OUR PURCHASING AGENT AND OUR TAX ACCESS COLLECTOR CONCERNING THESE, WHO'S ALSO OUR ELECTED ADMINISTRATOR. I WOULD ADD, UH, CONCERNING THESE TWO SYSTEMS, UH, GENTLEMEN, DO YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS OR ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? READY TO VOTE? DO I HAVE A MOTION? THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITH DSS. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER THAT WOULD GO WITH DSS. I'LL, UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT. UH, SECOND SET MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AND I WILL VOTE THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN COUNTY AND WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO THE NEXT ITEM. THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASE COMPETITIVE BID SIX INTERCEPTORS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ONE. CHRIS, FOR TIME ON PURCHASING THESE VEHICLES. SO, UH, SPEAKING, TALKING WITH THE SHERIFF DISCUSSED THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ONE OUT FOR BID FOR SEALED SOLICITATION WHERE WE MIGHT GIVE, UH, MORE CURRENT, I MEAN MORE LOCAL VENDORS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE GET BUSINESS VERSUS JUST STRAIGHT OUT GOING OFF THE BUYBOARD. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT MEANS YOU'LL ADVERTISE AND CORRECT PAPERS AND CONTACT, CORRECT? THAT'S SEND OUT BID PACKAGE. THAT'S WONDERFUL. WE SHOULD, YEAH. AGREE. OKAY. WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT IN THAT, WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT WITH EVERYTHING, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, RIGHT? WE DON'T FOR, OKAY, SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I MADE MY MOTION TO DO THAT. UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN MAKES A MOTION. SECOND FILL, SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. ALRIGHT, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN NOW IS, UH, FROM OUR COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE, OR NOT EXTENSION OFFICE ANYMORE. AG, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? OKAY. YEAH, WE'RE KIND OF THE EXTENSION. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THOUGHT THERE WAS A DIFFERENT NAME. THAT'S RALPH. ONE MORE NAME CHANGE. I'LL HAVE A FULL COFFEE PRESENT US. THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING. KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE ONE YOU JUST SHOT. THAT'S ACTUALLY A WHITE TAILED DEER. HE'S A BIG OLD BOY TOO. SLAVE. BE LIMPING. YEAH. UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, UH, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A PICTURE. WE WENT, UH, MY LIVESTOCK CORD COMMITTEE, UH, SPONSORED EVERY NOVEMBER ON THE SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER, AN OUTTA COUNTY AGRICULTURAL TOUR. WE CALL IT AN AGRICULTURAL TOUR. UH, BUT BASICALLY WE SEE ALL THINGS MANUFACTURING AND ANYTHING OF EDUCATIONAL INTEREST, UH, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE TO NEW MEXICO, LOUISIANA, SO THE BORDERING STATES OF TEXAS. ALSO OVER THE YEARS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR YEAR WE STARTED IN WACO, WENT TO THE, UH, TEXAS RANGER MUSEUM. HAD A TOUR, GUIDED TOUR OF THAT. IT WAS A, A PRETTY GOOD TOUR. MOST OF THE GROUP MEMBERS HAD NOT BEEN TO IT BEFORE. WE HAD 36 PARTICIPANTS THIS YEAR. PROBABLY ONE OF OUR BIGGEST, UH, YEARS. I TRY TO CONTROL THAT WHEN YOU GET TO TOURS THAT HIT TOO MANY AND, UH, YOU CAN'T REALLY HEAR AND IT'S HARD TO GET AROUND AND [00:30:01] SEE AND, UH, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR FOR RESTAURANTS AND THAT KIND OF THING. BUT, UH, WE HAD, WE HAD A BIG BUS THIS YEAR AND, UH, UH, A LOT OF PARTICIPATION. UH, WE TALKED IN GERALD THAT WAS REAL UNIQUE THAT GUYS TALKING TO US ABOUT HOW THEY REBUILT GERALD AFTER THE TORNADO TORE IT UP. UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS QUITE A UNIQUE LITTLE STOP THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY DO. BUT THEN WE WENT TO FREDERICKSBURG AND HUNG OUT FOR THREE DAYS AND HAD A LARGE TIME AND SAW EVERYTHING AGRICULTURE AROUND FREDERICKSBURG, UH, HAD A LARGE TIME. I MEAN, WE HAD A LARGE TIME. THAT'S EXACTLY, I'M FROM NORTHEAST LOUISIANA. I THOUGHT THAT MEANT, I'M SURE THEY DID THAT. ANYWAY, UH, UH, THE, UH, I THOUGHT THIS WAS ONE OF THE OUT OF 18 THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE LIVESTOCK FOREST COMMITTEE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SPONSORING THIS, THIS TOUR FOR JANICE POOR, WHO'S CHARLA BREEDER, UH, DOWN CLOSE TO CAMP. SHE'S BEEN ON EVERY TOUR THAT THEY'VE GONE ON. AND I THINK SHE TOLD ME THEY'VE DONE 43. BEEN DOING IT 43 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LONG, LONG TIME. THIS TOUR GOES ON EVERY YEAR. AND, UH, UH, I SAID THE PARTICIPANTS GET A LOT OUT OF IT. UH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY MUCH FOR IT. UH, $75 A HEAD. AND THEN THE LIVESTOCK REPORTS COMMITTEE, UH, WHO MAKES MONEY DURING THE HAY HAY SHOW GATHERS UP, UH, RECEIPTS TO, UH, FINANCE DIFFERENT AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS ACROSS THE COUNTY. THEY PICKED UP THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS THAT THAT PUT THIS THING ON. UH, ANYWAY, WE DID THAT IN NOVEMBER, UH, ON A FERAL HOG. ONLY HAD ONE TRAP OUT IN NOVEMBER. UH, WE TALKED 22 HOGS. UH, THE SECOND NIGHT HE PUT THE TRAP OUT. HE'S STILL GOT IT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MORE HOGS YET, SO MAYBE HE GOT THE WHOLE SOUNDER. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OPEN FOR. I THINK IT COMES BACK NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL SEND IT BACK OUT AGAIN. UH, JUST AS SOON AS IT COMES IN. YOU TOMORROW. TOMORROW, YEAH. YEAH, WE'RE DOING HIS TOMORROW. OKAY. WHAT WE DO WITH THE ONES YOU CATCH? WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY TWO OR THREE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH 'EM, QUITE FRANKLY. UH, MOST OF 'EM ARE BEING DESTROYED RIGHT THERE WHERE THEY'RE AT, UH, ON PREMISES. BUT, UH, I HAVE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT I'VE GOT A LIST OF BUYERS THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY BUYERS. THEY COME IN AND TAKE 'EM OFF YOUR PLACE AND THEY TAKE 'EM TO FORT WORTH AND SELL 'EM AT THE USDA PLANT THAT, THAT YOU TAKE HOS OVER IN FORT WORTH. THOUGHT WE MIGHT TAKE THEM OVER TO DALLAS COUNTY AND JUST RUN THEM OVER THERE. NO, COME MY, WELL, PART OF MY REPORT IS I ACTUALLY WENT, UH, LAST MONTH TO A FERAL HOG SYMPOSIUM. THEY, THEY HAD AT BUNK SANDS. UH, AND, AND MOST OF THAT WAS THE DALLAS COUNTY PEOPLE TELLING US WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THEIR EFFORTS TO CONTROL HOGS ON THE CITY PARKS. UH, IN DALLAS COUNTY, THEY'RE SPENDING SIX FIGURES OVER SIX FIGURES A YEAR, UH, TRYING TO CONTROL, UH, DRILL HOGS ON CITY PARKS. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD 'EM OUT ON INTERSTATE 35 AND OF COURSE THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION IF THEY THINK THAT STOP GONNA CAUSE THE DIRECTLY BOTTOM GOLF COURSES. EXACTLY. COURSE WE'VE HAD 'EM ON I 20. YOU, WE ACTUALLY HAVE I 20 OUT OUT HERE, UH, SEVERAL TIMES. THEY'RE CROSSING UNDER THE, UNDER THE INTERSTATE. UH, WE, I'VE CAUGHT, UH, SEVERAL HOGS OUT AROUND THE HIRING AREA WHERE THEY WERE, THEY WERE CROSSING UP UNDER THE INTERSTATE. I RUN OVER ON 5 48 CAR ONE DAY. MY MASTER GARDENER'S PUT OUT, UH, THEIR ANNUAL CALENDAR LAST MONTH. I HAD CALENDARS FOR Y'ALL, UH, TODAY. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL SET SOME OUT ON THE TABLE HERE AND ANYBODY THAT WANTS ONE CAN PICK ONE UP. IF, UH, ANYBODY IN HERE THAT NEEDS A MASTER GARDENER CALENDAR, YOU CAN GIVE 'EM FROM OUR OFFICE. I ACTUALLY GET A BOX EVERY YEAR TO GIVE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE COURTHOUSE. UH, 3,600 CALENDARS WENT OUT. WE HAVE 48 BUSINESSES THAT PARTICIPATE BY ADS IN THAT CALENDAR THAT, THAT HELPS FUND IT. IT'S, UH, KIND OF A BREAK EVEN COST ON IT. UH, TEXAS A AND M PUBLISHES IT FOR US. THEY'RE PUBLISHING DEAL. THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO THE PRINTING ON THAT FOR US. AND, UH, WE'VE SENT OUT A LITTLE OVER 3,600 THIS YEAR, UH, TO THE AREA BUSINESSES FOR THAT. UM, I ATTENDED A MEETING OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION WITH, UH, TWO OF MY MASTER GARDENERS LAST MONTH. AND, UH, THEY GAVE US PERMISSION TO START A VEGETABLE GARDEN. AND IT IS UNDERWAY AS WE SPEAK. THEY ARE, UH, LIKE THIS IS MONDAY. THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING OUT THERE THIS MORNING. UH, GONNA TRY TO GET IT PLANTED BY [00:35:01] JANUARY AND WE ARE GOING TO USE THE HARVEST FROM THAT. THEY ASKED ME, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE HARVEST? WELL, THEY DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME, BUT KATIE AND I ARE GOING TO DO A JOINT PROGRAM. UH, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO GROW THE VEGETABLES IN THAT GARDEN, TAKE IT RIGHT FROM THERE TO THE FAIR GROUND. AND KATIE'S GOING TEACH THEM WHAT TO DO WITH THEM AFTER THEY'RE I'M GONNA COOK AND LEAVE THERE. GO. I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO KATIE TO LET HER TALK A WELL, THANK YOU FOR, UH, LETTING ME COME. I'M SORRY I MISSED LAST TIME. I HAD A REALLY BAD COLD. SO I AM NOW THE, UH, HEALTH EDUCATOR FOR COMAN COUNTY, UM, AND UNDER THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AREA JUDGE, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE REMEMBERING A LITTLE NAME CHANGE IS WE'RE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AREA NOW. SO WE'RE FOCUSING MORE ON HEALTH FOR, UM, COFFMAN COUNTY. UH, THIS MONTH I REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR BETTER LIVING FOR TEXANS PROGRAM AND THAT'S OUR, UH, SNAP EDUCATION PROGRAM. SO WE ARE EDUCATING OUR LOW INCOME FAMILIES ON HOW TO STRETCH THAT FOOD DOLLAR AND, UM, EAT SAFELY AND HEALTHY A LIMITED BUDGET. SO, UH, IN NOVEMBER I TAUGHT AT FRESH TRUCTURE HEALTHIER U THAT'S OUR THREE LESSON SERIES. IT COVERS FOOD SAFETY, WHAT CHOOSE MY PLATE LOOKS LIKE, AND HOW TO STRETCH THAT FOOD DOLLAR TO, UH, THE PARENTS AT TAR HEAD START. UM, I HAVE OTHER CLASSES, THIS SERIES SCHEDULED SEVERAL OTHER TIMES. UH, ONE WILL BE HERE IN, UM, KAUFMAN AT THE CENTER, THE KAUFMAN CHRISTIAN HELP CENTER THAT WILL START IN JANUARY. SO IT'S A, EVERY TIME I CAN FIND AN AUDIENCE, I TEACH IT. UM, IT'S A FUN SERIES FOR ME. IT, THE SERIES, THE LESSONS THEMSELVES COME WITH A LITTLE LECTURE. AND THEN, UM, THE ENTERTAINMENT SIDE IS THAT I ALWAYS COOK FOR PEOPLE THAT BASICALLY WHAT EVERYBODY REALLY ENJOYS IS THAT I COOK AND THEY GET TO TASTE IT. SO, UM, MY NEXT, THE NEXT THING I DID WITH THE TAR HEAD START WAS I WENT INTO THE CLASSROOMS, THE TAR HEAD START CLASSROOMS TO GET KIDS TO EAT FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. AND I DON'T ALWAYS CARRY AROUND A STUFFED BROCCOLI, BUT , THIS IS WHAT I USED TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT BROCCOLI LOOKED LIKE. AND THE KIDS ALL LIKED PLAYING WITH MR. BROCCOLI AND BE CHEERED WHEN THEY TASTED THE BROCCOLI. AND I GOT A HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE FOUR YEAR OLDS TO EAT RAW VEGETABLES. SO IT WORKED. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE GAVE THEM FRUIT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK ON KIDS TO EAT FRUIT. IT'S, THEY LOVE IT. YOU PUT CHEESE AND STUFF ? NO, WE DID NOT PUT CHEESE ON ANY OF IT. WE DID NOT GIVE THEM RANCH DRESSING. WE GOT THEM TO TASTE IT RAW AND IN ITS NATURAL STATE. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE DONE IT FOR SEVERAL TIMES AND WHEN YOU HAND A CHILD A PIECE OF RAW YELLOW SQUASH, IT DOESN'T LOOK, IT'S, IT'S A SLICE. SO THAT BECOMES A YELLOW SUN. AND WHEN THEY TAKE A BITE, IT BECOMES A MOON. SO THEY ALL WANT TO TAKE THE SUN TO THE MOON. AND SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY TASTING IT. UM, WE HAVE CAULIFLOWER, YES, WE PUT THIS, UM, WE TAKE WHITE, WHITE CAULIFLOWER AND BROCCOLI AND HOLD THEM UP. WE HAVE A WHITE TREE AND A CREAM TREE. ONE LITTLE BOY THAT CORRECTED ME AND TOLD ME THAT CAULIFLOWER WAS REALLY CURLY FLOUR. AND SO I THAT I THOUGHT THAT CUTE. SO OUTTA A MOUTH 4-YEAR-OLD, I LEARN, I LEARN A LOT AS MUCH FROM THEM AS, UM, THEY LEARN FROM ME. ACTUALLY. I'M LEARNING SPANISH COLORS AND SHAPES AND SO I'M ACTUALLY GETTING TO LEARN A LITTLE SPANISH. UM, I ALSO PROVIDED 300 FAMILIES WITH, UH, RECIPE BOOKS TO GO WITH THE CENTER. THEY HANDED OUT, UH, THANKSGIVING BASKETS AND I PROVIDED THEM WITH AN INFORMATIONAL COOKBOOK TO GO WITH THAT ON WHAT, HOW TO COOK, WHAT THEY GOT IN THEIR BASKET. SO WE'VE GOT LOTS OF GREAT THINGS PLANNED. UM, FOR 2018, IT SEEMS LIKE DECEMBER IS OUR PLANNING MONTH. WE WRAP UP THE YEAR AND PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR. SO I'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS COMING THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO WOULD TO CARRIE? YEAH. CAN CARRIE, I THINK, UH, CARRIE SENT Y'ALL AN EMAIL. CARRIE'S MOTHER, UH, HAS COME DOWN WITH CANCER. SO I THINK SHE'S HAVING HER PROCEDURE THIS WEEK. CARRIE'S HELD TO KANSAS TO BE WITH HER DURING THAT PROCEDURE. UM, SO THAT'S WHY SHE COULD, DID NOT COME, GO AHEAD. SO, UM, FOR THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, IT'S EVER BEEN EXPLAINED, BUT CARRIE IS THE FOUR H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AGENT, BUT RALPH AND I DO PROVIDE SUBJECT MATTER, UH, EXPERTISE TO THE AREA. UH, JUST THIS AFTERNOON WE'RE HOLDING [00:40:01] A SEWING WORKSHOP WITH, UM, 10 KIDS. SO I'VE GOTTA GET BACK AND GET SEW MACHINES OUT FOR THE KIDS TO LEARN TO, WE TAUGHT 'EM TO SEW IN OCTOBER AND THEY'RE COMING BACK TO SEW THIS AFTERNOON IN A SKILL BUILDING WORKSHOP. SO WHAT CARRIE HAS TO REPORT IS THAT SHE HAS A, UM, A PHOTOGRAPHY CLINIC IN THE PAST MONTH. AND BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS OF THE PHOTOGRAPHY CLINIC AT KAUFFMAN COUNTY, WE HAD A DISTRICT WINNER IN AN INTERMEDIATE, UM, PHOTOGRAPHY WITH SOPHIE FORD. AND IT'S A GREAT PICTURE. I'M SURE THAT CARRIE WILL SHOW IT. IT'S A PAIR OF BOOTS, MUD BOOTS ON THE FENCE. SO ALL YOU SEE IS THE BOTTOM HALF OF A PAIR OF BOOTS AND IT'S A GREAT PHOTOGRAPH. I, I'D LIKE A COPY OF THAT. OKAY. WHAT ELSE SHE DID THIS LAST MONTH WAS SHE HAD TWO SPEAKING, UM, PUBLIC SPEAKING WORKSHOPS LED BY ONE OF OUR YOUTH LEADERS FOR 28, UH, CHILDREN IN FOUR H. UM, PREPPING THEM FOR THE EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATION CONTEST, WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN UM, APRIL. AND SHE ALSO HAD, UM, IS WORKING WITH THE KIDS TO GET THEM PREPARED FOR ROBOTICS COMPETITION THAT HAPPENS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. AND OF COURSE LIVESTOCK JUDGING AND A LOT OF OTHER, UM, INTERESTS. SO WE'RE PREPPING FOR CONTESTS THAT WILL HAPPEN AND LIVESTOCK SHOWS THAT WILL HAPPEN STARTING AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. THE KIDS WERE ALSO HIGHLY ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECT. THEY GATHERED COATS, THEY WROTE CHRISTMAS CARDS, THEY GATHERED LIVESTOCK FEED AND BOOKS TO TAKE DOWN TO THE HURRICANE VICTIMS IN HOUSTON OR HOUSTON. SHE ALSO HAS TWO PROGRAM ASSISTANTS AND THEY TOUCHED 2,500 STUDENTS. UM, THIS IN NOVEMBER. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER FEW QUESTIONS? I'LL DO MY BEST ANSWER. I HAVE ONE MORE PIECE THAT I JUST GOT LAST WEEK THAT I DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THIS REPORT. UH, AND Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT. I JUST MADE A COUPLE OF COPIES. GAVE ONE JUDGE WOOD. UH, I HAPPEN TO BE PART OF A GROUP CALLED AN EARTH KIND EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH TEAM, PART OF A A, A GOOD ME COUNTY EXTENSION AGENTS IN NORTH TEXAS. UH, AND WE SUBMITTED FOR AN AWARD NOT TOO LONG AGO AND I GOT A LETTER FROM THE DIRECTOR OF EXTENSION LAST WEEK SAYING WE HAD, UH, WON THE TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE SUPERIOR SERVICE AWARD IS THE HIGHEST AWARD THAT YOU CAN GET IN EXTINCTION. GOOD. AND I THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT TO YOU. OKAY, GOOD. COOL. DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. I WENT LAST WEEK TO A MEETING WITH KATIE AND SHE MAKES SOME REALLY GOOD PIZZA DESSERT. YES, SHE DOES. SHE GAVE ME A JAR. I EAT ALL THESE. THEY GAVE IT TO YOU FOUR DAYS AGO. MY GOODNESS. BISCUITS? I BISCUITS. BISCUITS. AND, AND THEY'RE FROM HAMS ORCHARDS. SO THEY'RE ALL APPRECIATE IT AND WE'LL CARRY BACK EXTRA. WE GOT, WE GOT SOME, WE ALL GOT SOME AT THE WE TOWARDS BANQUET. OH GOOD. I'LL LAY THESE ON THE TABLE IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE A CALENDAR. ANYBODY DOESN'T GET ONE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO OFFICE. I HAVE THEM. SO ANYBODY WANTS TO LEARN HOW TO MAKE PEACE PRESERVES I'LL BE HOLDING A WORKSHOP NEXT YEAR. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO PRESENT ACCEPT THE PUBLIC WORKS AND FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORT FOR NOVEMBER, 2017. GOOD MORNING. ON YOUR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS REPORT. PRETTY MUCH AVERAGE NUMBER FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. UH, NO BIG CHANGES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH THE EXCEPTION WE DIDN'T HAVE COURT IN MONTH AND, UH, DEPOSIT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. PRETTY REFLECT DEPOSIT THIS TIME ON THE, UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT FIRE. OKAY. UH, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ON THAT. WHAT WE DO WITH THE WEATHER, UH, YOUR REDUCTION IN THE, UH, THE GRASS HAY GARAGE FIRES, ALL THE ILLEGAL BURN SIGNIFICANT ION IN ALL THOSE NUMBERS, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE RAINING WEATHER THAT WE'D HAD AND EVERYTHING. [00:45:01] WE, WE WAY BACK UP. THAT MEANS ARE YOU GONNA PUT IN YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE EVALUATING, UH, THE DATA RIGHT NOW FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS GETTING THE NUMBERS OF A MATTER OF FACT COUNTY REPORT COMING FROM DISPATCH. TODAY'S GONNA REFLECT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF GRASS FIRE COSTS. WHERE'S NUMBER RIGHT NOW? THIS MORNING WE WERE AT FIVE FOUR I BELIEVE IT WAS. OR FIVE FIVE. WHERE'D IT HAVE TO BE? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANY PARTICULAR NUMBER. FOREST SERVICE PROVIDES A 5 75 IS A BENCHMARK NUMBER. UH, THAT'S SOME COUNTIES DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY WHAT'S LOWER THAN OURS. COLD WEATHER. SO THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE DEAD VOLTAGE, THE INCREASED DEAD VOLTAGE. AND AS, UH, DAY WE HAD A FEW MULTI-AGENCY FIRE, NOTHING REAL BIG BUT JUST MULTI-AGENCY FIRES PRIMARILY DUE TO OUR HUMIDITY LEVEL BEING, WE'RE COMING INTO THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN. SO WILL BE PROBABLY, I RECOMMENDATION. I KNOW ON YOUR, UH, UNDER THE LAST ONE, PERMIT PLAN REVIEWS AND SUBMITTAL 21 DURING THE MONTH, SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. UH, IT'S JUST, IT CONTINUES TO GROW. THESE ARE ALL COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE. YES, SIR. OUTSIDE, THIS ACTUALLY IS, IS KIND OF OKLAHOMA RIGHT NOW, BUT THE, UH, OTHER INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE HAD GOING, BUT WE WERE KIND OF DO OUT SOME STUFF. I BROUGHT IN ONE OF MY PART-TIME PEOPLE PRETTY MUCH TO THE MAX OF THE HOUR. IF IT IS WITHIN A CITY'S ETJ DO WE OR YOU NEED THAT? IF THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CITY FIRE MARSHAL, THEY DO THEIR OWN INVESTIGATIONS. OKAY. IF THEY DO NOT AND REQUEST OUR OFFICE, WE CAN COME OUT AND DO THE ORIGIN AND CAUSE INVESTIGATION FOR THEM. BUT IF IT DEVELOPS INTO A, UH, YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL ACT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO REFER THE CASE BACK TO THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR, UH, PROSECUTION. BUT THE NEW BUT THE NEW, YOU TAKE CARE. NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING. YES SIR. OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR HONOR. APOLOGIZE. NEW. WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS ASKING. YEAH. THE NEW PERMITS. IT IS. UH, ANYTHING IN THE ET TJS IS OURS. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT BECAUSE OF THOSE INCREASED NUMBERS YOU SAW, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN DOUBLE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. WE HAVE, UH, QUADRUPLE, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENT PARTICULAR ONE OF 'EM WAS A SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT MANAGER GONNA HAVE. THOSE ARE COMING. UH, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL LARGE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE DOING SOME, UH, PRE-SUBMITTED MEETINGS WITH THEM. THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SUBMITTED. YES. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL OR PUBLIC WORKS? NOPE. GOOD. THANK. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT . SECOND. NEXT MOTION. COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECOND MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I. ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A RESOLUTION, UH, AUTHORIZING ADOPTION OF, OF A SELECTION OF REASONABLY DEVELOPED, I'M SORRY, REASONABLY RECOMMENDED STANDARDS AND WATERSHED MANAGEMENT. UH, I RECEIVED THIS FROM THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. UH, IT IS A SAMPLE RESOLUTION IF YOU SO APPROVE, UH, WE WILL, UH, COMPLETE IT AND UH, SEND IT IN. BUT THEY ARE ASKING, UH, THAT WE APPROVE THAT AND DEALING WITH THE, UH, WATERSHED MANAGEMENT. I, IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK IT OVER OR NOT, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT MY OPINION. AND SO, UH, I DON'T ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT FORWARD. OKAY. I'LL A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND WE'LL GET A HUNT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED ALL ITEM NUMBER 10 NOW IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ABANDONING A PORTION OF LEWIS CIRCLE PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 51 0 5 OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE IN COUNTY PRECINCT. [00:50:01] BUT YEAH, IT'S KIND, IT'S IN KIND PART OF IT. YEAH, PART OF IT. THE ROAD KIND OF BELONGS TO MR. HUNT. HE VOLUNTEERED THE OTHER COMMISSIONER. I HAD TO GET A YEAH, BUT ALL THE TERRITORY BEHIND IT WAS PRECINCT TO, AND I CONTACTED MIKE AND MIKE SAID WORKED FOR THAT AND I DID. AND HE'S BUILDING A HOME PROJECT BEHIND THAT. AND THEY'RE GONNA BRING A CONCRETE STREET THAT FIND OUT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF LITTLE CIRCLE AND THE FARM MARKET ROAD. WE DECIDED THAT THE CONCRETE ROAD PROBABLY BETTER THAN I HEARD. SO, AND IT'S GOING, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. THEY'RE GONNA OWN IT AND ALL THAT. SO WE ABANDONED THIS SECTION BECAUSE HE OWNS ALL THAT PROPERTY. THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. AND HE'S GONNA PUT THE REST ON HIS ROAD. YEAH. SO HE WON'T HAVE TO FIX IT. I TOLD HIM ABOUT I I WAS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. I WAS TAKEN CARE OF IT ON HIS ROAD REPORT. AND WE IT'S A, IT A THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP ON HERE. WE'RE LEARNING. WE'RE CLOSE OVER HERE. . ALRIGHTY. DO QUESTIONS OF THE DA'S OFFICE. Y'ALL DA'S OFFICE APPROVED IT AND LOOK AT IT. YOU CAN SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. I DON'T HAVE TO. OH, I MEAN YOU PROVIDED A GOOD SUMMARY. THE EASEMENT ON THE BACK SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE ROAD, BUT IT BELONGS TO THE SAME OWNER ON BOTH SIDES SO IT'S OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION TO DO JUST AS LONG AS IT KEEPS IT THERE. MOTION A ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPT DONATION OF $80,000 FROM DR COMPANY FOR REPAIRS TO HIGH COUNTRY LANE LOCATION IN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER TWO. I'LL EXPLAIN THAT ONE TOO. I GUESS THAT ONE IS THEY'RE, THEY AGREED TO GIVE US THE MATERIAL MONEY BACK REPAIR. SO THAT'S WHY. AND I'VE ALREADY OUT THE CHECK AND RONNIE GOT PUT SOON AS WE MAKE A MOTION. A MOTION TO MAKE. HAVE A SECOND. YEAH, SECOND. MR. BARBER. SECOND. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FAVOR UNANIM. THE SECOND AND UH, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFER LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FOR TODAY. UM, MAINTENANCE FACILITIES NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL PE CONTROL SO WE TRANSFERRED SOME MONEY OUT OF ONE LINE ITEM TO ANOTHER. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS, UM, TO RECEIVE THAT 80,000 AND SET UP A SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR THE COMMISSION OF FORT FIX IN THAT COUNTRY. COUNTRY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR I WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAYMENT CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR MILLION $340,898 AND 73 CENTS. UH, 1,000,074 OF THAT IS AN EMPLOYEE INSURANCE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND THE OTHERS ARE ARE MINOR. WE DID SOME RECORDS MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, UH, PURCHASED A COUNTY VEHICLE, UH, SOME NEW EQUIPMENT FOR ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE AND SOME ROAD MATERIALS FOR THREE AND FOUR. OKAY, THAT MADE UP THAT. AND THREE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, I MOTION. MOTION? SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A THOSE ITEM NUMBER, UH, 14 DOWN IS TO DISCUSS THE LITTERING SITUATION IN KAMAN COUNTY AND FIND A WORKABLE SOLUTION. UH, HUNT, I BELIEVE. PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON THAT, UH, HAS ASKED TO SPEAK TO [00:55:01] THE ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE HAVE THAT FIRST? YES, GO AHEAD. OKAY, MR. , YOU'D LIKE TO THANK YOU JUDGE. UH, A FRIEND OF MINE CALLED ME THIS MORNING AND ASKED ME TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF. UH, HE UM, UH, I I GUESS A COINCIDENCE. HE WAS THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS IN YOUR OFFICE AND BROUGHT WALMART GIFT CARDS AND Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT LIQUOR. AND I SAID, I, IT'S ON THE AGENDA. WE ASKED HIM TO SPEAK. HE LIVES ON CLARIFY THE WALMART GIFT CARD. THEY WERE FAR THE OH, OTHER DAY. AND HE WAS VERY GENEROUS. SOUNDS GOOD. YES, HE WAS. HE WAS VERY, HE'S VERY EMPLOYEE. SO, UH, YEAH, HE, HE LIVES THERE ON THE, THE, THE COUNTY ROAD THAT GOES NORTHEAST OF THE POST OAK BEND STORE. I BELIEVE IT'S 79. 79. AND YOU KNOW, HE, HE, HE, HE'S THE KIND OF CITIZEN THAT THAT, THAT FOR PART OF HIM, HE'S WHAT WE ASPIRE TO BE. HE'S ADOPTED HIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, HE, HE'S GOT A VERY NICE HOUSE, BUT YET HE INVESTS HIS TIME AND HIS TREASURE TO BE THE TRASH POLICE ON THAT STREET FOR MORE THAN A DECADE. AND, UH, THERE'S A, A KIND, THE ROAD CROSSES A BRIDGE AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH AN IMPASSABLE CREEK BOTTOM. SO, UH, THERE'S DUMPING THERE AT THAT BRIDGE. SO THERE'S THAT GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN THAT FEEDS INTO THIS. WE ALL KNOW IT'S JUST, UH, A DIFFICULT SITUATION. PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RICHARD? YEAH. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO, WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS WE'RE KIND OF INEFFECTIVE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. THIS IS REALLY NOT WAY WE CAN COMMUNICATE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS AND I KNOW WE HAVE TRASH PILES THAT ARE THERE DAY IN, DAY OUT EVERY YEAR. EVERY DAY FOR YEARS. AND IT'S THE SAME PLACES THAT HAD DUMP ON THIS MORNING COMING TO WORK I, A MONTH AGO I PICKED UP A MATTRESS IN BOX OF SPRINGS. I PICKED UP A MATTRESS IN BOX OF SPRINGS. THAT ROAD WHEN I WAS GOING THE SHOP EARLY IN THE MORNING THIS MORNING, 10 SACKS AND TRASH LINED UP NICE AND NEEDLE THEM BESIDE OF 2 83 THAT SITTING THERE. I PICKED THEM UP, THEY'RE IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK RIGHT NOW. AS WITH SPEED. SO I MEAN WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THIS. IF YOU CALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, THEY COME, THEY MIGHT COME. IF I CALL AS A COMMISSIONER, THINGS HAPPEN PRETTY QUICK. AVERAGE JOE SIMPSON CALLS NOT SO FAST. AND THEN THEY COME OUT AND THEY PUT AN X ON THE BAG AND THEN HERE COMES THE RUB IS WHO'S GONNA PICK UP THE BAGS. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M NO BETTER THAN ANYBODY, ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE, CAMAN COUNTY OR ANY CITIZEN CALL THE COUNTY PICK. IF I SEE 'EM, I PICK 'EM UP. NOW, YOU KNOW, MY GUYS THAT BUILD RUB, BUILD RUBS AND I DON'T WANT TO STOP MY ROAD BUILDING TO GO PICK UP TRASH UNLESS I HAVE ACTUALLY NOTHING ELSE TO DO. AND DURING THE TRANSITION WHEN WE HAD A LOSS OF DUMP TRUCKS, OUR GUYS WENT OUT AND HIT THE HOTSPOTS AROUND IN OUR PRECINCT THAT ARE THERE EVERY DAY, EVERY YEAR WITH PEOPLE TO COUCHES, CHAIRS, TVS, EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I TALKED TO BRIAN AND I TALKED TO, I WANT TO GET ON THE AGENDA TO GET EVERYBODY IN THE SAME ROOM TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS. I MEAN, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN. I KNOW WE, WE HIRED TWO MORE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS AND, AND AND IT'S TAKING TIME TO HIRE 'EM AND, AND AND TO SET IT UP THE WAY, WHEN WE APPROVED IT IN THE BUDGET, MY VISION WAS THAT THEY WORKED FOR EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS. THEY HAD FOUR OFFICERS WORK AT EACH OF THE FOUR PRECINCTS. AND THE SHERIFF WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO LET THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CARRY THEIR CERTIFICATION AND THEIR CE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 'CAUSE WE COULD HAVE CAPABILITIES AS COMMISSIONERS, BUT THEY WERE GONNA WORK FOR US. YOU KNOW, AND IT'S TAKING TIME THAT HAPPEN. I, BUT, BUT WE STILL NEED TO FIND SOME WAY TO GET THE TRASH PICKED UP AN ECONOMICAL WAY. WHETHER WE HIRE A PRIVATE VENDOR TO WORK OUR COUNTY ROADS OR WHATEVER. OR ALL OF US GET TOGETHER AND WE HIRE A GUY TO PICK TRUCK AND THE TRAILER TWO GUYS AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING THE WHOLE COUNTY. I, I DUNNO, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT TO TAKE CARE OF IT. IT'S GETTING OUTTA HERE. I MEAN, NOT IT'S WHAT I SEE. I GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AND UH, IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT AND IT'S HARD TO COMMUNICATE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT WORLDS HERE AND WE ALL KIND OF DO OUR OWN THING, BUT WE NEED TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE AS A TEAM AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND ALL LET DO TALK. AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN TALK. SO WE CHOSE NOT SHOPPING, BUT I'M GLAD YOU ASKED IT TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA. YEAH, I DO THINK IT IS SOMETHING, AS A GROWING COUNTY, IT'S NOT GOING TO DECREASE. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE. I'M SURE. SHERIFF YOU MAY WANT TO. YEAH, LET, LET'S GO BACK TO 2014. WE USED TO HAVE, WAY BEFORE THAT WE HAD TWO OFFICERS IN THE TRUCK WENT AROUND AND PICKED UP EVERYTHING. [01:00:01] UH, 2014, TOOK IT BACK, THE JAIL TOOK A $1.2 MILLION HIT 21 PEOPLE THAT TOOK AWAY THEM OFFICERS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. AND WE HADN'T HAD 'EM SINCE THEN. UH, I THINK THE BIG THING IS WE CAN STILL DO THAT AGAIN. WE JUST GOTTA FUND IT SOMEHOW. I'VE STILL GOT A TRUCK. I STILL GET A TRUCK. UH, AND WE CAN DO UH, DETENTION STAFF WHO CAN WATCH INMATES AND I SAY WE'LL PUT 'EM TO WORK, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO DO IT RIGHT NOW. UH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE CUT THAT OUT WHEN WE DID THAT BACK THEN IN 2014. WE HAVE PROVEN TOO PICKUPS THEN WE DISCUSS THAT WE HAVE TRAIT ENVIRONMENTAL. YEAH. YES. AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TRUST. WE DON'T HAVE TOOLS. WE JUST GOTTA GET THE PEOPLE SOMEWHERE. GOTTA GET THE PEOPLE. AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PART, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER TOO, NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO JUMP IN AND BE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. YEAH. THAT'S OUR PROBLEM WITH YOU. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IT OUT, UH, TRYING TO PULL SOME PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH END. SOME PEOPLE THAT'S WORKING DOWN THERE DOING THE SAME JOB BUT NOT GETTING PAID AS WELL AS WHAT WE'VE DONE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT INTERNAL. WE AIN'T GOT NOBODY WANTS TO DO IT AND I, THAT'S KIND OF HARD THING TO DO. BUT, BUT THE THING ABOUT THE X ON THE BOX, WE, WE'VE KIND OF SOLVED THAT PROBLEM. I SEE IT AGAIN. WE WILL RESOLVE THAT ISSUE. IF THEY, IF THEY GOT A TRASH BAG, THEY INVESTIGATE IT, THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT IN THEIR TRUCKS. THAT'S WHAT WE GIVE 'EM TRUCKS FOR. THEY BETTER NOT BE PUTTING NO X AND THROWING IT ON THE SIDE ROAD. THEY CAN PICK UP TRASH LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. AND WHEN THEY SLOW DOWN, THEY, I KNOW THEY'VE PICKED UP THE TRAILER AND TOOK A COUPLE OF TRUSTEES AND AND DONE THAT. THEY CAN'T DO IT NEAR AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE THEM TO DO IT. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK IT, OUR BEST WAY TO DO IT IS I'VE GOT A TRAILER, WE'VE GOT A TRUCK. WE JUST NEED TO HIRE TWO PEOPLE TO DO IT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT. AND USE TRUSTEES. I MEAN RIGHT. YOU THE CAMERAS HAVE TO SPARK THE CAMERAS. THEY'RE GAME CAMERAS THAT COMPUTE PHONES TO YOUR COMPUTER, WHATEVER ACTIVITIES ROUTE WENT INSTALLED. SAID LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME HOT SPOTS. I KNOW I DO. I'M SURE YOU DO. AND WE AND THAT WE PUT GOT SOME CAMERAS, WE PUT SOME ON THE BRIDGE OUT THERE ON. WE JUST NEED TO CATCH THE SUCKERS. OH YEAH, EXACTLY. AND PROSECUTES SOMEBODY. MM-HMM. YEP. I'M WITH YOU. I'M 100% LIKE THE, THE 10 BAGS OF TRASH HE PICKED UP THIS MORNING. UH, DO WE STILL GO THROUGH THOUGH AND WHY WOULDN'T WE? WELL I MEAN LOOK, THE THING ABOUT IT'S AND THAT'S WHY NOT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH IT. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. AND, AND AND I'M NOT AS PICKED ALL THINGS UP 'CAUSE I'M TIRED OF FIGHTING WAITING FOR DAYS AND THE TRASH BLOWING ALL OVER PEOPLE CALLING. WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT DEEP STUFF. WELL THEY GET RIPPED OPEN AND PRETTY SOON BAG BLOWING THE HOOK. THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. A PICKED THE DOG IN TRASH THIS MORNING, TOOK IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK BACK THERE. IF THEY WANT TO COME UP THERE AND THEY WANT TO DIG THROUGH IT, FINE. BUT YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S OLD HORSE FEED SACKS, SOME OF IT BURN STUFF THAT FROM A TRASH CAN AND SOME OF IT'S BUILT CARTONS AND CRAP LIKE THAT. IT'S TRASH, YEAH'S TRASH. BUT IF THEY WANT TO COME LOOK AT IT, THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU KNOW, THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME IS PUT THE DOG STUFF UP TABLE. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SILLY. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN ANY OTHER COUNTY OR ANYBODY SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE SELECTING OFFICIAL, YOU KNOW, AND I EXPECT MY GUYS TO PICK UP IF THEY'VE GOT ROOM TO PICK UP A TRUCK AND THEY DRIVE BY, PICK IT UP. MM-HMM SO I'M NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING I WOULDN'T EXPECT MY GUYS TO DO. NO, WE, WE SCALE PICK UP AROUND MONTHLY. ME TOO. ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER WE HAVE TOO. WE HAVE TWO. ARE THEY, HAVE THEY BEEN ASSIGNED TO A THEY'RE JUST NORTH AND SOUTH. OKAY. RIGHT, RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT. OKAY. SO BUT I MEAN ARE THEY REPORTING TO LAST TWO COMMISSIONERS? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CALLING Y'ALL, ARE THEY NOT? THEY HAVE MONDAY, SO. OKAY. AND UH, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING A PICKUP TRUCK AND A TRAILER. EVIDENTLY WE HAVE A TRAILER THAT'S, WE HAD A TRUCK. YEAH. AND UH, WHEN YOU SAID WE HAD PEOPLE, NOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, IF THEY GET THE TRAINING TO TAKE THE TRUSTEES OUT, CAN THEY NEED THE SAME THING? WELL THEY CAN DO IT BUT THE PROBLEM IS IS I MEAN IF THEY'RE GOING AROUND LOOKING AT TRASH, YOU, WHEN YOU GO GET A TRUCK, AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, Y'ALL TRUSTEE AND DO ALL THAT, THAT'S ALL THEY CAN DO. THEY CAN ONLY PICK UP TRASH. SO THEY CAN'T FOLLOW UP ON ANY OTHER THING THAT THEY'RE GOING. AND THEY'S GOTTA PUT ALL THE TRUSTEES DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY SEE THE TRASH BAGS AND THEY LOOK INSIDE. YOU'RE SAYING THAT TO GUARD TRUSTEE? WELL, YEAH, THEY, I AIN'T GONNA HAVE 'EM LOOK THROUGH TRASH AND LETTING TRUSTEES WALK OFF. NO SIR. OKAY. AIN'T GOING TO DO THAT. OKAY. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT BIG A PROBLEM. IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT WHEN YOU DON'T, WHEN YOU TURN YOUR EYES AWAY AND THEY ARE TRUSTEES, THAT'S JUST A WORD. THEY'RE INMATE WORKERS AIN'T NOTHING TRUSTEE ABOUT IT. MY DEAL IS HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT A GUN THROW IN THE DITCH OR SOMETHING. BUT THEY BE WATCHING 'EM, WHAT THEY'RE PICKING UP. I DON'T NEED 'EM DIGGING THROUGH [01:05:01] STUFF. THEY GOTTA WATCH FIREFIGHTER DON'T. YEAH, I THINK THAT WAY BECAUSE THEY BRING STUFF IN THE JAIL. ALRIGHT, SO GENTLEMEN, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED? I, I, MIKE HAS BROUGHT THIS UP AND IT IS SOMETHING WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE A COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP AND THAT WORKS WELL. BUT AS FAR AS DOING A DAY TO DAY THING. IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE'VE REALLY ADDRESSED. AND UH, I MEAN, IF WE COULD HAVE A CREW, UH, A COUPLE OF GUYS IN A PICK UP AND A TRAILER, MAN, THEY COULD START AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. NO, WE, WE USED TO MAKE A GOOD DIFFERENCE BACK THEN WHEN WE HAD 'EM ON THE ROAD. WE NEVER HAD THE PROBLEM. NO. I GUESS WHAT BIG STUFF, WASH MACHINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT PRECINCT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I NEED A MACHINE TO GET THIS OUT OF THE DITCH. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. BUT I HAVE A BUSINESS WITH ANY OTHER COUNTY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE US AND SEE HOW THEY HANDLE IT. I MEAN, IT'S AN ISSUE NOT JUST HERE, BUT ALL OVER THE STATE. I, OTHER COUNTIES THEY GOT, THEY GOT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES BEING THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. I DUNNO. AND WE KIND OF DO THE WORK, WE DO IT WITH THE COUNTY CLEANUP. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND OUR MONEY THERE. IF YOU TAKE THE MONEY AWAY FROM COUNTY CLEANUP AND PUT THE PEOPLE, IT'S GOING BE ON THE ROAD. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE HAVE THOSE GUYS PICK IT UP. BUT I MEAN, SO WOULD IT HELP IF DO TWO COUNTY MICRO YEARS, THAT'D BE EXPENSIVE FOR THE COUNTY, BUT I'M NOT SURE ANY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. SITTING IN OUR CRUISE OUT. 10, MAYBE THREE, FOUR TIMES A YEAR. FREE STUFF TODAY, NO CHARGE. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY COULD DO THAT HERE. PART OF THE CITY HERE. I DUNNO IF IT, YEAH, THEY SPLIT HERE. IT'D BE HARD TO DO HERE. BUT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A SOLUTION FOR SOME PEOPLE. WELL, TO COME UP WITH A WELL ORGANIZED PLAN. I DON'T THINK WE MAKE, WE CAN'T DO THAT TODAY. TODAY. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE OUR CITIZENS LIKE ONE MR. OLDFIELD MENTIONED THAT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, HELPING, UH, WORK OUT CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS THAT MIGHT HAVE OR SOMETHING. I KNOW THAT'S ONE THE STATE DID THAT PLAN, YOU ADOPT THAT SECTION OF ROAD, YOU GET, YOU GET DIFFERENT BUSINESSES GETTING HARD TO DO. AT FIRST IT WAS A BIG THING, BUT IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO ADOPT THE SECTION OF ROAD. NOBODY, NOBODY WANTS TO DO IT ANYMORE. IF YOU JUST, SORRY, IF Y'ALL JUST KEEP SPENDING MONEY CLEANING UP PEOPLE'S MESSES, THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO IT. YOU NEED TO SET SOME FINES, SOME HIGH CAMERAS TO CATCH THEM. YES SIR. AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO. I'LL LOOK AT SOME SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS. I'VE GOT SOME ASSETS, ORFE FUNDS THAT I'LL LOOK AND SEE IF I CAN GIVE THEM AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN PULL OUT. SEE IF I CAN DO A LITTLE MORE, UH, WORK THAT WAY. UH, LIKE I SAY, IF I CAN JUST GET IT ON CAMERA AND GET A LICENSE PLATE OR SOMETHING THAT'S EASY WE CAN FIX. PROBABLY POSSIBLE. WHAT WE NEED TO FIND HAS REALLY BEEN HELPFUL IN THAT. PUT GOOD FINES ON IT. YEAH, DO THAT. SO I'LL WORK ON SURVEILLANCE STUFF. THE ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU BEFORE THE, THE DAYS OUT, I KNOW ONE OF 'EM IS OFF TODAY UNTIL THE FIRST. SOMEBODY WILL BE CALLING YOU EVERY DAY WHEN THEY'RE AT WORK OR THEY'LL TELL YOU WHEN YOU'RE OFF AND I'LL, I'LL GO PICK 'EM TODAY. WHO'S GOT NORTH? WHO'S GUYS OUT? OKAY, SO I GUARANTEE YOU DONE BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BEEN DONE. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WORKSHOP THIS OR THERE A COUPLE OF YOU WANT WORK ON A COMMITTEE WITH SOME . HOW DO YOU WANT DO, I DON'T WANT JUST TALK ABOUT IT, GET ALL FIRED UP, BUT WE GONNA DO IT THEN WE DON'T FALL. YEAH, WE COME BACK WITH WORSHIP WITH THE COST OF JAILERS. RIGHT. YOU'RE TALKING ME THE JAILERS. WE CARRY THE TRUSTEES AROUND, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE HAD SOME COST COST, YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. WHATEVER THAT PROCESS, LIKE I SAY, I'VE GOT A TRUCK, I GOT A, SO THAT'S NOT A COST. FAR AS BEFORE PRECINCTS, WE COULD PUT ONE OF OUR GUYS OR TWO OF OUR GUYS AND ONE PRECINCT TRUCK. ESPECIALLY THE WINTER. WELL WE DO, WE PICK, WE PICK ONE DAY A WEEK WHEN WE GET, WE USE ONE DAY A WEEK. GENERALLY FRIDAY EVERYBODY WINDING AIRPLANE, THEY AIN'T WORK. SO WE, WE DRIVE ALL OF OUR ROADS. DON PICK UP THE TRACK HERE. THESE COUNTY EMPLOYEES, THEY GET YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT THERE. YOURS ARE ALREADY GONE. ALRIGHT, WE'RE OFF. WE'RE OFF TASK. UH, OKAY. THAT THAT WHEN YOU WORK WITH THE SHERIFF AND [01:10:01] ONE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WORK, LISTEN, UH, I'LL WORK WITH YOU OKAY. AND UH, MAYBE KIND OF COORDINATE AND COME BACK WITH A, BEFORE WE HAVE A WORKSHOP, WE REALLY NEED TO SOME KIND OF PLAN THE WORKSHOP. I'LL HAVE, I'LL HAVE SOME CALLS PRETTY QUICK. I SOME CALLS AND SAME. SO THAT, THAT'S GOOD. SO THAT BEING SAID, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? THANK MR. MAKES THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MERRY. IF YOU NEED THE BEST, THERE'S, YOU MAKE YOUR SELECTION ELECTRONICALLY, BUT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.